August 9, 2012

Women's soccer: USA! USA! USA!

It's especially amazing that the American women's soccer team triumphed in its semifinal and final games over two countries with such long histories of soccer excellence, places where kids are dribbling soccer balls all over the favela from the time they can walk: Canada and Japan. 

The problem is that there's nobody left for our women to beat. So, they'll just have to start up a women's pro soccer league, just like all the other super successful women's team sport leagues that got launched in the excitement after the USA proved its feminist superiority by crushing disgusting sexist foreigners for gold in women's basketball and women's softball in 1996, women's ice hockey in 1998, and women's soccer in 1999.

Maybe they should form a Republican women's soccer team and a Democratic women's soccer team that would barnstorm around the country playing each other to see who deserves to win the election. It would be like the Blue and Green chariot racing teams in Justinian's Byzantium. That worked out well.

But seriously, I think we should now spend a quadrillion dollars to send the U.S. women's soccer team to Alpha Centauri so they can win the Galactic Women's Soccer Championship over Epsilon Eridani. Man, I hate those those seven-legged freaks. They are almost as bad as the Canadians.

Hey, how about the American gold medalist in women's boxing! How come Women's MMA isn't in the Olympics yet?

And what about that Aztec game where the losing team captain's heart gets ritually torn out on top of a pyramid? It's sexist that isn't in the Olympics. I can think of a lot of American dad sportswriters who would volunteer at the 2016 Rio Olympics to personally rip the heart out of any foreign upstart who dares challenge the supremacy of our women's ┼Źllamaliztli team. USA! USA! USA!

192 comments:

Anonymous said...

I'd like to chant along--USA USA USA--but (1) soccer is not American (2) soccer is boring and (3) women's soccer is extra boring.

Anonymous said...

Soccer is more European than American. It's for European-Americans and Hispanic-Americans. But more for European-Americans as it's such a suburban game.

Anonymous said...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_Summer_Olympics_medal_table

The first Olympics I saw at the age of 9. East Germany was incredible.

Mr X said...

Well, in most countries in the world soccer is mostly a male sport. Except in the USA (and maybe in Japan and Canada).

Anonymous said...

Americans have the diversity advantage. In brain power, it has Jews. In muscle power, it has blacks. The trade-off is smarter Jews gained power over whites and stronger blacks beat up whites.

Chinese has smart people and strong people, but its smartest cannot compete with Jews and its strongest cannot compete with Negroes.

One advantage of American diversity was it existed on the margins than at the core, i.e. core of America has been white but there's been talented minorities like Jews in intellect and business and blacks in sports and pop culture.
It would have been ideal if the black population was something like 3%. Then, America would benefit from black athletic prowess but there would be far less social problems stemming from blacks.

But with changing demographics, American diversity will no longer be at the margins but at the very core, and that may cause tremendous problems. It was one thing to have minority talents revolving around the core of whiteness. But without a demographic majority core(of talented whites), can the center hold in American culture and politics in the future?

Due to its homogeneity, China will never be able to compete at the high end of intellect and sports with America. It will win in the middling events and succeed at the middling business level. On the other hand, Chinese don't have to worry about being ruled by non-Chinese or being robbed by thugs of another race.

There's always a trade-off.

Simon in London said...

I saw Great Britain play (and beat) Brazil at Wembley. The audience was interesting, it split into:

1) Men who just like soccer
2) Families
3) School parties(!) - bad idea, given the 10pm finish and restricted egress
4) Lesbians. Lots of lesbians.

The game itself was good, the stadium was certainly good, and the biggest part of the audience was probably the men enjoying it as a regular football game; the players were mannish and seemed much like male footballers. That made it attractive to the large lesbian cohort, too.

Later, I was likewise taken to see women's synchronised swimming technical doubles at the aquatic park. This was notable for the complete lack of lesbians.

Anonymous said...

"I'd like to chant along--USA USA USA--but (1) soccer is not American (2) soccer is boring and (3) women's soccer is extra boring."

You forgot #4, which is that this women's soccer team is one of the most boorish, trashy, and repugnant teams of any sport, of all time.

Anonymous said...

Chinese has smart people and strong people, but its smartest cannot compete with Jews and its strongest cannot compete with Negroes.

As long as we are making comparisons, the European people are smarter, faster, and stronger than the Chinese. They also have a superior sense of fair play and spirit of cooperativeness.

And as for a diversity advantage, the European people are second to none. They rival Jews in creativity, exceed them in physical prowess, fair play, and spirit of cooperativeness, although they may lag slightly in traditional IQ.

Europeans exceed American blacks in traditional IQ, creativity, fair play, cooperativeness, and the physical attributes of endurance accuracy, while they lag in speed and quickness and some other physical attributes.

See the above for the comparison to Chinese.

They Europeans had all they needed in themselves for successful, fair, and prosperous civilizations, civilizations that would best any others.

Anonymous said...

LOL. That was funny, Steve. Your tone is usually so calm and measured that it's amusing to see that you get just as exasperated with all the BS like the rest of us.

Anonymous said...

In muscle power, it has blacks.

Blacks aren't stronger. Neither in a physical sense nor in combat/war.

Jimbo said...

The first Olympics I saw at the age of 9. East Germany was incredibl-ly pumped up on roids?

Anonymous said...

Americans have the diversity advantage. In brain power, it has Jews. In muscle power, it has blacks. The trade-off is smarter Jews gained power over whites and stronger blacks beat up whites.

No one touches the European peoples in terms of the combination of talent and versatility. Unlike some of the groups you mention, Europeans can do it all by themselves. They need not depend on another group for governance or technical expertise. They need not exploit other groups for prosperity. The do not require other groups in order to defend themselves or do their physical labor.

Some of Northern Mongoloid people also show versatility, but lack the overall dynamism of the Europeans.

tenneby said...

The problem is that there's nobody left for our women to beat. So, they'll just have to start up a women's pro soccer league

No doubt a new one will be more successful than the previous two, the Women's United Soccer Association (WUSA) and it's successor (and the more recently shuttered) Women's Professional Soccer (WPS).

I can't believe you've forgotten these already; or did you never realize they existed?

Dad said...

Soccer is quite big here in Japan. It's probably the number two team sport after baseball. Men's soccer, that is. The women's national team is popular now because of their success, but very VERY few girls actually play the sport. I live in Shizuoka Prefecture, considered the soccer capital of Japan. But even here there are no schoolgirl teams, just a few girls here and there who play on boys' teams. America may be the only country in the world where soccer for girls is taken seriously.

Anonymous said...

"And what about that Aztec game where the losing team captain's heart gets ritually torn out on top of a pyramid?"

Good times!

Anonymous said...

Americans have the diversity advantage. In brain power, it has Jews. In muscle power, it has blacks. The trade-off is smarter Jews gained power over whites and stronger blacks beat up whites.

Blacks beat up whites? Really?? So why is it that whites rank among the world's best soldiers? What kind of reputation do African militaries have? How have blacks performed historically in the U.S. Armed Forces?

Anonymous said...

"You forgot #4, which is that this women's soccer team is one of the most boorish, trashy, and repugnant teams of any sport, of all time."

Women's soccer is the new softball.

eah said...

Actually, they were outplayed for significant stretches by the Japanese, who throughout demonstrated superior aplomb on and control of the ball, which IMO is the hallmark of good, solid soccer skills. No honest person who watched the WC final last year can say they did not deserve to win that game, even though the victory came on penalties. The same would have been true last nite (had they won).

I was reminded of the US v South Korea (men) in the WC 2002, where the US was really embarrassingly outplayed, but somehow managed a 1-1 draw.

Torn and Frayed said...

Soccer is just not played by women in the dominant soccer powerhouse nations like Brazil, Argentina, Germany, Italy, and Spain. Even in second-tier countries like Holland or Uruguay, or third-tier countries like England and France, it is pretty rare for women to play. Only fourth-tier loser countries like Sweden, Japan, and the US do women play.

That said, if Europe wanted to compete in women’s soccer (actually pretty unlikely they would) they could always send an EU team. Although it is not completely fair to compare, if we count the gold medals by EU nations, they have 73 which is almost twice what China and the US have. Of course in the case of an EU team, Europe would only be allowed to send three competitors to each event but on the other hand in team sports they would dominate even more. An EU team could easily win 60 gold medals although they would be admittedly a bit boring, just like team GB is to English and Scottish supporters.

The Dude said...

My deprogramming is well nigh complete. I have never watched sports for more than 10 minutes at a very occasional stretch.. I quit playing team sports 45 years ago. I stopped watching TV "shows" 40 years ago. I stopped watching TV news 20 years ago. I stopped reading newspapers 6 years ago. I get all my commentary, news and analysis from the web.

Now I feel like a stranger in a (very) strange land. Reading this column was like trying to read some Stalin era Russian fabulist fiction in translation.

I can sense the sarcasm, I know there is a very political, very subtile message in there, but it takes great effort to root around and extract the data. Am I right in understanding you are appalled at the manufacture of an entire sports culture (female soccer) in the USA in response to Title 9 feminists with which substantially the entire nation is bored or repulsed?

lowly said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ClAM3zXx-I

"Chinese has smart people and strong people, but its smartest cannot compete with Jews and its strongest cannot compete with Negroes"

You're selling the Chinese short, as well as being wrong on your other counts. All it takes to be your kind of 'strong' is willingness to ignore consequences.

Anonymous said...

"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_Summer_Olympics_medal_table

The first Olympics I saw at the age of 9. East Germany was incredible."

I was 8 and living in Australia. We were told we were quite good at sport. We won no gold medals in 1976. I remember the devastation when our archenemies New Zealand beat us 1- 0 in field hockey.

I believe at least one female East German athlete now lives as a man.

BrokenSymmetry said...

"They Europeans had all they needed in themselves for successful, fair, and prosperous civilizations, civilizations that would best any others."

Then why the past tense?

scoobius dubious said...

If you add together the entire medal count of the white West: USA, UK, Canada, Australia, NZ, entire European Union, Russia and Ukraine (and then subtract all the incidental black medal-winners therefrom), you see a staggering athletic domination by whites, across the board, in all categories, non-stop.

Now add together the entire medal count of China, Japan, both Koreas, and marginal SE Asian nations -- head for head you have a far higher population, and yet you have something like 1/5th of the total medals.

Also consider these peripheral contests:

Euros vs. Asians in creating numerous exciting, inventive sports that everybody in the world wants to compete in: Euros 80 zillion, Asians about 12 to 20, mostly martial arts (give those their due, though -- they are sophisticated and superb).

Euros vs. Africans in creating, organizing and building vast technological urban environments where people from all over the globe can come to safely compete and have their achievements broadcast worldwide:

Euros 80 zillion, Africans [doubles over with laughter].

***

"the European people are second to none. They rival Jews in creativity"

I simply won't have this. The European peoples do not "rival" Jews in creativity, they vastly, VASTLY out-pace them: it isn't even close.

In the past 3,000 years, with the exception of the topic of labyrinthine religious disputation, Jews only became notable, creatively, within the past 250 years or so. And they only did this by glomming onto the backs of fully-formed civilizations AFTER the groundwork was laid and the battles all fought.

Hell, ceteris paribus and pound for pound, and adjusting for chronic severe logrolling and nepotism at a host society's expense, even the damn Scythians have a more impressive creative legacy than the Jews. Stop it already. Just... stop.

Anonymous said...

"Although it is not completely fair to compare, if we count the gold medals by EU nations, they have 73 which is almost twice what China and the US have. "

Agreed, not completely fair. Give the US or China a dozen teams each and see how the medal count goes.

hbd chick said...

We Thought Female Athletes Were Catching Up to Men, but They're Not

from The Atlantic. heh!

Torn and Frayed said...

“Give the US or China a dozen teams each and see how the medal count goes.”
If the US competed by states instead of as a nation they may win an occasional extra individual gold medal (since a few of the fourth or fifth place winners would luck out and win gold) but their team gold medal totals would suffer. California and Florida would do OK but even if Michael Phelps was anchoring Maryland’s 4X100 freestyle relay team I doubt they would even qualify for the finals. Same with Basketball and all the other team sports. Could any of the 50 states create a “Dream Team” I basketball? Dividing the one US team into 50 separate teams would seriously hurt the US team gold medal count.

Silver and bronzes may go up but Gold medal counts would go down.

Anonymous said...

Actually, they were outplayed for significant stretches by the Japanese, who throughout demonstrated superior aplomb on and control of the ball, which IMO is the hallmark of good, solid soccer skills.

Didn't watch the game because, um, it's women's soccer, but I caught some of the commentary before the game while flipping through and one of the commentators mentioned that the Japanese team was more skilled but that the American team was bigger and faster.

eah said...

OT

Three US soldiers have been killed and one injured by a gunman wearing uniform in Helmand province, Nato has said.

But, like I asked before, who's counting?

Anonymous said...

@Steve Sailer

"Hey, how about the American gold medalist in women's boxing! How come Women's MMA isn't in the Olympics yet?"

Believe it or not, there is an enormous amount of pressure from feminists to make a fight between Anderson Silva, the consensus #1 pound-for-pound male MMA fighter, and Ronda Rhousey, the consensus #1female pound-for-pound MMA fighter. They believe this will bridge the gap between genders and bring down "stereotypes that females are not fighters". When Dana White, president of the UFC was asked about this, he said that:

"I don't think this is a very good idea. This is not swimming or bowling. This is a combat sport. In swimming, if you lose you lose, but in MMA if you lose you LOSE.
Losing in MMA often means a lot more than just losing a competition. This is a real simulation of one-on-one warfare and it often ends up pretty badly for the loser."

I agree with Dana. Because of feminists and a few female MMA reporters with daddy issues giving their opinions that Rhonda can "totally" win this fight, a lot of people on MMA internet message boards like Sherdog.com are believing this and sending e-mails and tweets to Dana for him to make this fight. They are calling this a "super fight".I hope he stands by his decision and doesen't make this fight.

Do you guys have any idea what Anderson Silva would do to Ronda Rousey?

This "super fight" would be super-over instantly: Anderson would destroy Rousey in less than a minute in the wink of an eye.

I mean, Forrest Griffin is 6'4 and a muscular 225 lbs inside the cage, and Silva TOYED with him and gave him the most embarassing KO in the history of KOs - he KOd Griffin with a jab walking backwards. Anderson beat both Griffin, a man who was good enough to win the LHW belt, and James Irvin easily. And that at the 205 lbs male division. He has also dominated the 185 lbs division for 6 years there winning 15 consecutive bouts. In his last fight with Cheal Sonnen, one JAB from Silva was enough to make Chael, one of the toughest guys in the UFC, groggy and uncoordinated. Not an overhand or a cross, but a JAB. Rousey is 125 lbs. Even if they were the same weight, she wouldn't stand a snow ball's chance in hell. But he has between 70 lbs to 90 lbs on her. And more of that weight is muscle and less of it is fat. If Anderson can toy with a 6'4, 225 lbs muscular male, imagine what he would do to a 125 lbs human female.

Here is how a fight between the two would go: at the beggining of the first round, Anderson would walk straight to Rousey and pummel her. In the space of 30 seconds, he would give her multiple concussions and she would drop LITERALLY dead to the ground. To quote "Mortal Combat": Fatality: flawless victory.

Dana White would never make this fight because the image of a black man LITERALLY killing an all-American blonde white girl on T.V would be the end of the UFC.

I am sorry for my diatribe. I am just sick and tired of this feminist insanity. I don't have a problem with feminist thinking that women can do this or that like men, but when they verge on the territory of insanity where they actually get people killed, then I have a problem with it. Male MMA fighters don't want women in MMA. They don't want to beat up women for the same reason they don't want to beat up a child or a man on a wheelchair: it does nothing to enhance your status as a fighter in the eyes of your fellow fighters, and the point of fighting is overcming the skills of worthy opponents and not just hurting people who can't defend themselves. Sadism is the trait of the banndit and not the warrior.

Anonymous said...

"Well, in most countries in the world soccer is mostly a male sport. "

In most countries in the world sports are mostly male sports.

"savage ideal of the beautiful woman going with the toughest warrior women"

mmkay

elvisd said...

My principal used to call soccer "communist kickball".

Jeffery said...

Does anyone care about the Olympics?

Anonymous said...

"You forgot #4, which is that this women's soccer team is one of the most boorish, trashy, and repugnant teams of any sport, of all time. "

Sez the butthurt Canadian.

Canadian women spent the entire game assaulting the American players and trying to delay the game when they were 1 goal up (and got justifiably punished for it by the referee after repeated warnings), and it's the Americans who were "boorish, trashy, and repugnant"? Please. Get over yourselves Canada.

dearieme said...

Sarcasm ill becomes you, Mr iSteve.

Hapalong Cassidy said...

Based on the medal count relative to population, if you are going to talk about Asian athleticsm, the people that should be talked about are the Koreans, not the Chinese. Look at it this way: it's generally assumed that Northern Chinese are taller and more athletic than Southern Chinese. From that point of view, Korea is like an entire nationfull of Northern Chinese.

Jeff Burton said...

Not sure I'm getting the joke, but I'm with you 100%!

Rex Gold said...

We should be so lucky as to have a run like the Byzantine empire. They lasted a thousand years after than the Romans. But somehow I just don't see Obama as the sort who would jump in to final battle, sword in hand like a common soldier, to go down doing his part in the struggle for his country like Constantine XI Palaiologos.

Jokah Macpherson said...

If US Women's soccer is looking for a challenge, there's always the local high school boys' JV team.

Simon in London said...

anon:
"Do you guys have any idea what Anderson Silva would do to Ronda Rousey?"

While I don't know who these people are, it's unchivalrous to discuss women fighting men. Also, it's important that men 'man up' and ignore Feminists when they're being silly women.

(Seriously.)

Camlost said...

Laila Ali herself laughed at notions that good women fighters can compete with men.

There's simply no comparison in punching power and ability to take a punch.

Chicago said...

One way of upping our medal count is to find those women's sports that few other people care about and then to put enough resources into fielding some winning players out there. Perhaps women's hacky sack should be an Olympic sport.

Anonymous said...

"they verge on the territory of insanity where they actually get people killed"

Curie-Hultgreen Syndrome

Anonymous said...

Holy Toledo, the WOMEN BEAT CANADA. I CAN'T BELIEVE IT.

Anonymous said...

We all die sometime. Might as well make it for a good cause: Feminism.

beta_plus said...

While I generally, women's hockey between Canada and the US tend to actually be very entertaining games due to them being evenly matched and having good finesse with passing. It has some of the same appeal of women's tennis.

Anonymous said...

What happened to the Norwegians? They were the only ones playing the Americans tough in the beginning (second place in the 1991 World Cup and winners in 1995).

Since then, nothing much.

Anonymous said...

"As long as we are making comparisons, the European people are smarter, faster, and stronger than the Chinese. They also have a superior sense of fair play and spirit of cooperativeness."

Except to their own. Just ask the Greek runner. Just ask free-thinkers locked up by PC.

Luke Lea said...

Why no polo?

Luke Lea said...

Anonymous said...

"You forgot #4, which is that this women's soccer team is one of the most boorish, trashy, and repugnant teams of any sport, of all time."

Women's soccer is the new softball.
8/10/12 12:19 AM

I'll second that. The Canada game and the way they responded to it completely turned me off. I hope they die a slow death.

Anonymous said...

They have women boxing now. Justinian Blues and Greens were more rowdy than the Occupy bunch who are simlar rapes, vandalism and so forth.

Anonymous said...

Got to agree. Stupidest idea regarding combat sports to come down the pike in a long time. Even in sports that compete against the 'field' rather than the 'man' men and women are not equal. Look at 'Ninja Warrior' I don't believe a woman has ever beaten the first stage in America and maybe a handful of times in Japan.

MQ said...

Unlike some of the groups you mention, Europeans can do it all by themselves. They need not depend on another group for governance or technical expertise. They need not exploit other groups for prosperity. The do not require other groups in order to defend themselves or do their physical labor.

LOL. I think the main distinguishing characteristic of "Europeans" is the myth-making folks here are willing to do about them. All the peoples colonized and enslaved by Europeans over the years would be surprised to hear that Europeans never "exploited other groups for prosperity" and never required "other groups to do their physical labor". And Europeans required Americans to defend themselves from other Europeans during the recent near-suicide of European nations.

Oh, also, Jews are a European people and have been one of the major contributors to European civilization.

beowulf said...

"Dana White would never make this fight because the image of a black man LITERALLY killing an all-American blonde white girl on T.V would be the end of the UFC."

Right, but White can always play the PC card and come out foursquare against spousal abuse. The UFC won't sponsor an intergender fight because it doesn't want to give the idea to any impressionable boys or young men that its OK to hit a woman.
To disagree with that is to implicitly take the side of wife beaters. :o)

Anonymous said...

"Dana White would never make this fight because the image of a black man LITERALLY killing an all-American blonde white girl on T.V would be the end of the UFC."

Yeah, our culture is one that would rather see black guys hump white women.

Btw, if such a fight were to be schedules, Anderson Silva will just play with her and not hurt her. And then, she'll feel grateful, and the media will hype it was great male black star and great white female star as one great athletic couple.

Anonymous said...

Soccer?

Men's or women's?

Even the proud moms and dads at their kids' soccer games don't watch.

Fun to play, really bad to watch.

Anonymous said...

"We Thought Female Athletes Were Catching Up to Men, but They're Not"

This is one of those things no one believed but most people kept mum about cuz it might be 'sexist' to say women are biologically inferior material in athletics. I mean we know but no one wants to risk his place in media or academia by blurting it out.

Similarly, we know that Chinese will never catch up to blacks--or even whites--in real sports like Track and Field, but no one says nothing cuz it might be 'racist' to say some races are different. You might end up with the Jimmy the Grook treatment.
I mean even Whimowicz doesn't allow some truths.

I recall when the Chinese guy won the 110 hurdles, one of the TV guys said, 'China might be a superpower in tracks in yrs to come' but then the co-host said absolutely nothing and remained silent for a long stretch. He probably wanted to say, 'THIS WAS JUST A FLUKE. THEM CHINESE FELLERS DON'T HAVE THE PHYSIQUE TO EVER BECOME A REAL POWER IN TRACK AND FIELD, YOU BIG DUMMY.' But he kept his lips sealed.

We know but pretend not to.
NO ONE really believed the crap about women catching up.
It's like no one believes that the black community will produce a whole bunch of Einsteins and James Watsons--unless it's some light-skinned black guy with Jewish blood.
That black astronomer guys seems something of an inflated affirmative action case. What's his great contribution to science? Manhattenhenge. SWPL dorks celebrate it as the great scientific discovery of a Negro.

Anonymous said...

Unfortunately I have seen too many instances in these London games where americans are being benefited in subjective decisions. I think american medal counting doesn't reflect their real sports power.

Regarding Bolt, I still cannot see him as greater than Carl Lewis. Also I put Rudisha's 800m world record above everything Bolt did in this olympics. The 100m is for children, the 200m for adolescents, the 400m for men, but the 800m is for Titans.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous at 2:53

You've been duped. Nobody is clamoring for that fight. It's a joke. We have not sunken to those depths yet....yet

Dan in DC

Anonymous said...

"If you add together the entire medal count of the white West: USA, UK, Canada, Australia, NZ, entire European Union, Russia and Ukraine (and then subtract all the incidental black medal-winners therefrom), you see a staggering athletic domination by whites, across the board, in all categories, non-stop."

Not true at all. The fastest man and woman are both black jamaicans. The strongest man is iranian. The strongest woman is chinese.

Non-europeans dominate in:

Archery
Athletics
Badminton
Basketball
Boxing
Diving
Football
Judo
Taekwando
Table Tennis
Weight Lifting
Wrestling

Anonymous said...

http://www.nbcolympics.com/boxing/event/men-bantam-56kg/phase=bxm056200/index.html

Ireland vs UK. Uh oh.

Anonymous said...

What does Sailer mean by USA USA? Does he really like Women's Soccer or only its cultural symbolism? Suppose USA soccer team were made up mostly of blacks and Mexers. Would he be saying USA USA?

He's of course saying whiteSA whiteSA.

But all them ho's are Obama supporting liberals.

Anonymous said...

http://www.nbcolympics.com/athletes/athlete=falcao-florentino-yamaguchi-1066984/index.html

A Jagro?

Anonymous said...

Truth shall set you free?

No, more likely it will land you in jail.

Anonyia said...

So women's soccer is mainly only played in the U.S....So what. Softball is really only played in the U.S too. And of course the upper echelons of the sport are mannish...again nothing new here. It's still good fun for the young mostly middle class white girls who play those sports.

jody said...

lol steve. this post was just mean spirited. at least post about how stupid the obsessive NBC coverage was of women's beach volleyball. NBC barely showed women's soccer on network television.

if you were going to make a serious post about women's sports, examine the ridiculous economics of that money pit which they call the WNBA. the WNBA is permanently ensconced in american society now and will never, ever be allowed to fold.

economics are irrelevant. it always loses millions of dollars per year and will never, ever even break even. it will require 10 million dollars in straight up transfer payments per year, every year, in perpetuity, to continue operations. WNBA operations are, of course, essentially legally required in 2012 america.

the NBA props up the WNBA and literally just gives it money every single year. the NBA...which itself loses money every year.

jody said...

in a previous, more sane era in the US, none of this would be happening. WNBA expenses would exceed revenues for 10 years in a row and the league would fold. NBA expenses would exceed revenue for 10 years, and player salaries would decrease.

you can argue about whether an athlete "deserves" 15 million dollars a year, however you can't argue that these athletes cannot be paid 15 million dollars a year anymore. they can't, unless the owners simply accept losing money every year. which they seem to accept. the NBA is an athlete welfare and money transfer program at this point, from billionaire owners who can each afford to lose 10 million a year to greatly overpay africans in the US to juggle orange balls.

in fact, the NBA itself makes a fascinating economics study, bringing to bear all the ideas of guys like obama, who want to transfer all the wealth to africans. what ACTUALLY happens when you transfer 1 billion dollars a year in salary directly to africans? you get retired NBA players who, in some kind of world record amazing performance, are able to make 20, 30, 40 million dollars disappear into thin air in 3 to 5 years, with ZERO productive return on the money.

just watching how NBA players live should put to rest any notions in economists heads that all humans are interchangeable economic units, should destroy any ideas that liberals have about "well if they just had money, all humans would create the same societies", and so on and so forth. what if 100% of NBA salaries were instead just transfered to IQ 150 people. imagine the mind boggling divergence on ROI you would get. economists are really missing a huge, awesome case study in what really happens when you transfer a billion dollars a year from productive tax payers (the ticket buyers and television contract holders) to africans (the players).

Truth said...

"Believe it or not, there is an enormous amount of pressure from feminists to make a fight between Anderson Silva, the consensus #1 pound-for-pound male MMA fighter, and Ronda Rhousey, the consensus #1female pound-for-pound MMA fighter."

I choose "not." A couple of internet crackpots do not add up to "an enormous amount of pressure." White wouldn't consider that for a millisecond, nor would Silva or Rhousey.

Anonymous said...

Hmm. Sounds like Olympic Fatigue is setting in.

The Scythian Stanley Kubrick said...

"Hell, ceteris paribus and pound for pound, and adjusting for chronic severe logrolling and nepotism at a host society's expense, even the damn Scythians have a more impressive creative legacy than the Jews."

Comments like this one highlight the challenge of objective HBD. White HBDers are more than happy to be objective when it comes to comparing their IQs to the average black IQ. But when it comes to areas where whites are surpassed by other groups -- in explosive athleticism by blacks, in raw IQ by Northeast Asians, or in per capita scientific and cultural contributions by Ashkenazi Jews -- objectivity goes by the wayside.

In its place, we get ridiculous comments like the one above.

Harry Baldwin said...

tenneby said... No doubt a new one will be more successful than the previous two, the Women's United Soccer Association (WUSA) and it's successor (and the more recently shuttered) Women's Professional Soccer (WPS). I can't believe you've forgotten these already; or did you never realize they existed?

Someone doesn't appreciate that sly Sailer wit. Perhaps the reader is emoticon dependent.

Anonymous said...

Steve's criticisms of women's soccer are usually based on the faulty premise that the U.S. team always wins. They have indeed dominated the Olympics, having won four out of five gold medals, but they have won only two of the six World Cups.

Anonymous said...

OT, but Olympics related:

"Usain Bolt blasts Carl Lewis for criticizing Jamaica’s doping controls"

http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/08/10/usain-bolt-blasts-carl-lewis-for-criticizing-jamaicas-doping-controls/

"Usain Bolt took a momentary break from basking in his historic Olympic sprinting double to fiercely criticize former U.S. athlete Carl Lewis.

Soon after winning gold in the 200 metres at the London Olympics for 100 and 200 titles at back-to-back games, Bolt said Thursday he had “lost all respect” for Lewis after the American was quoted as saying Jamaica’s doping controls were not as strong as other countries.

While not making any direct accusations, former 100 and 200 Olympic champion Lewis has said in recent years that Jamaican drug testing procedures might need to be tightened."

"Lewis, the former 100 and 200 Olympic champion, has raised questions in recent years about Jamaican drug testing procedures.

Following Bolt’s performance in Beijing, Lewis told Sports Illustrated: “Countries like Jamaica do not have a random program, so they can go months without being tested. I’m not saying anyone is on anything, but everyone needs to be on a level playing field.”"

Anonymous said...

Would it be cheating if growth hormones were used when the athletes were being developed?

Suppose Chinese government finds a kid who seems to be promising material. Suppose they give him hormone boosts to make him grow bigger, stronger, and more muscular. But suppose the hormone treatments end at the age of 16. But the kid would have been artificially boosted in size and strength while he was growing up.

As athlete he'll pass every test, but he would still be someone who benefited from artificial boosting.

Anonymous said...

Presumably Carl Lewis has noticed what's quite readily apparent. There's been greater heat and scrutiny on doping in US track over the past decade, and US track success has slipped while Jamaica has risen.

Anonymous said...

"US track success has slipped while Jamaica has risen."

It done prove voodoo beats science.

Btw, if Bolt had been American, he might have grown up to play basketball or football than go into track.
Maybe the top running talents in the US are in pro sports than in track and field.

Anonymous said...

"Comments like this one highlight the challenge of objective HBD. White HBDers are more than happy to be objective when it comes to comparing their IQs to the average black IQ.
In its place, we get ridiculous comments like the one above."

No shit. Even funnier is white male idiots who insist blacks are not more athletic. When I grew up in an integrated neighborhood, every black boy knew he could kick white boy ass and every white boy cowered. It was like pitbulls and beagles. But all these know-nothing white nationalist white boys read castefootball and talk shit.

Truth said...

"what if 100% of NBA salaries were instead just transfered to IQ 150 people."

Come on, Sport, if you have a 150IQ, I thought you'd could figure out how to make an NBA salary.

Anonymous said...

"A Jagro?"

Holy Schmoly. Whim sure works in mysterious ways. I thought that one would never go through just like my Gabby stuff.

Anonymous said...

It's especially amazing that the American women's soccer team triumphed in its semifinal and final games over two countries with such long histories of soccer excellence, places where kids are dribbling soccer balls all over the favela from the time they can walk: Canada and Japan.



Biting sarcasm, I assume. Though given Steve's knowledge of soccer, maybe not.

Anonymous said...

"Btw, if such a fight were to be schedules, Anderson Silva will just play with her and not hurt her. And then, she'll feel grateful, and the media will hype it was great male black star and great white female star as one great athletic couple."

He might let her go the distance just to insult white maledom. That a white woman went the distance against him would mean she's tougher than all the white boys he knocked out. Blacks actually do stuff like this. They be jazzy and likes to toy with white folks. Obama be toying with white minds too.

DaveinHackensack said...

" the NBA is an athlete welfare and money transfer program at this point, from billionaire owners who can each afford to lose 10 million a year to greatly overpay africans in the US to juggle orange balls."

You just seem mad that it's mostly black athletes getting paid in the NBA. Billionaires typically overpay for sports teams, even in sports where the players are mostly white (e.g., English Premier League soccer). And without an effective salary cap, they can end up going into the red in bidding wars over talent. So what? It's their money.

Truth said...

"
No shit. Even funnier is white male idiots who insist blacks are not more athletic. When I grew up in an integrated neighborhood, every black boy knew he could kick white boy ass and every white boy cowered. It was like pitbulls and beagles. But all these know-nothing white nationalist white boys read castefootball and talk shit."

You CAN'T let that one slide jody!

Anonymous said...

I think Steve's complaint boils down to "There are far too many silly sports in the Olympics", rather than an objection to women's soccer per se.

Anonymous said...

When I grew up in an integrated neighborhood, every black boy knew he could kick white boy ass and every white boy cowered.


Son, you may be white, but you're not male. Don't project your own testosterone deficiency on to the rest of us.

Truth said...

On 7/19/12 10:39 PM jody wrote:

"eastern europeans dominate wrestling, because they don't really have a sport like rugby or american football to take all the big tough guys...
wrestling is a big international sport. it's MUCH bigger than boxing. it's so big that most of the "invincible black superhumans" on the 2012 american team will have trouble winning more than 2 or 3 matches in london"

On 8/8/12 1:51pm jody wrote:

"the last thing NBC wants to show is black american guys getting man handled in a physical sport. getting thrown by white guys, getting tossed around, getting their faces punched in and bloodied by white guys. these things are most certainly not part of the narrative."

Yo Jody, I was the first person Jordan Burroughs texted when he won gold, he wanted me to ask you a question about your taste buds.

Anonymous said...

Yo Jody, I was the first person Jordan Burroughs texted when he won gold, he wanted me to ask you a question about your taste buds.

The US only has one medal in men's wrestling.

Russia dominates with 7. Iran has 4, Georgia 3. Hungary, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Japan, and Sweden all have more than the US.

Severn said...

Comments like this one highlight the challenge of objective HBD. White HBDers are more than happy to be objective when it comes to comparing their IQs to the average black IQ. But when it comes to areas where whites are surpassed by other groups -- in explosive athleticism by blacks, in raw IQ by Northeast Asians, or in per capita scientific and cultural contributions by Ashkenazi Jews -- objectivity goes by the wayside.


I'd say that one challenge which objective HBD faces is the tendency of people who imagine themselves to be "objective HBDers" to make cringe-inducing errors of logic. "Whites" is an aggregation of about 1.5 billion people, one which includes Ashkenazi Jews and a very large number of other white sub-groups of varying ability and intellect. Taxonomy, people. Learn what it means.

The first anonymous idiot introduced this error and everybody else keeps repeating it.


core of America has been white but there's been talented minorities like Jews in intellect

Jews are white. And the intellect of Jews is not greater than that of other small elite white groups.

Anonymous said...

Men's wrestling at the London Olympics has been dominated by Russia, with Iran and Georgia in the second tier. And Hungary, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Japan, Sweden, have more medals than the US. The US only has one medal in men's wrestling. A bunch of countries have one medal in men's wrestling including North Korea, South Korea, Estonia, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Lithuania, Poland, and others.

Blacks are overrepresented on the US men's wrestling Olympic team, at 40%.

MQ said...

what ACTUALLY happens when you transfer 1 billion dollars a year in salary directly to africans? you get retired NBA players who, in some kind of world record amazing performance, are able to make 20, 30, 40 million dollars disappear into thin air in 3 to 5 years, with ZERO productive return on the money.

The funny thing about this is that this guy has probably seen a movie at a Magic Johnson theatre, or bought a product endorsed by MJ or Lebron recently. With a few highly publicized exceptions, ex-players do fine and some become major business successes. In the meantime, some prominent white athletes have lost a ton of money too (Curt Schilling, anyone?).

economists are really missing a huge, awesome case study in what really happens when you transfer a billion dollars a year from productive tax payers (the ticket buyers and television contract holders) to africans (the players).

LOL. You mean the players aren't the 'productive' ones (the ones in this case actually producing the product? But the fans sitting on their butts in the stands on the producers? OK, then.

James Kabala said...

This is really an out-of-date post that describes the situation in 1999 rather than today. It is based on the two ideas that the U.S. women's team always wins international competitions (it doesn't) and that the media give women's soccer tremendous publicity (as Jody noted, not really true this year).

Svigor said...

Americans have the diversity advantage. In brain power, it has Jews. In muscle power, it has blacks. The trade-off is smarter Jews gained power over whites and stronger blacks beat up whites.

You probably really do believe this crap, don't you?

Anonymous said...

I'd say that one challenge which objective HBD faces is the tendency of people who imagine themselves to be "objective HBDers" to make cringe-inducing errors of logic. "Whites" is an aggregation of about 1.5 billion people, one which includes Ashkenazi Jews and a very large number of other white sub-groups of varying ability and intellect. Taxonomy, people. Learn what it means.

It's because people sometimes vary in what they mean by "white" according to their personal predilections and biases. Some people use it to mean strictly Europeans, or European gentiles, others to mean Caucasians more generally.

Anonymous said...

"Men's wrestling at the London Olympics has been dominated by Russia, with Iran and Georgia in the second tier."

But tiny Cuba won the most coveted prize: Greco-Roman heavyweight.

Anonymous said...

who gives a shit?

Anonymous said...

http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/browse/index.html#sx=sports&cx=wrestling&fx=all&ox=recent&vx=grid&px=1

What really needs to be done. End network monopoly of Olympics. Even with online resources, we don't get anything about anything unless America wins.
NBC videos on wrestling show almost nothing. Same with boxing and judo. They yammer on and on about DIVERSITY but there is no diversity in coverage of events.

Carol said...

The WNBA is still around? I need to get out more.

"What does Sailer mean by USA USA?"

Oh dear, the post and comments musst really be terribly confusing to you.

Paul Mendez said...

Maybe they should form a Republican women's soccer team and a Democratic women's soccer team that would barnstorm around the country playing each other to see who deserves to win the election.

I still want to see a pay-for-view Sarah Palin/Barack Obama Charity One-on-One Basketball game.

They'd raise millions.

Anonymous said...

I meet a British woman who told me that even there, no one and she repeated no one watches high school girls play soccer. She said a typical secondary school girls soccer match might have 3-5 people in the stands on a good day. In the US by contrast, she said the mother and father of every girl on the home team would be there, plus at least one parent on the visiting team, plus a lot of people who just like watching high school sports. She emphasized that high school sports simply are not attended in the UK. My guess would be because in Europe, youth teams are organized under the umbrella of professional clubs, and are run as that team's youth division. So the good players aren't playing for schools, but for pro teams. In this country it would be like if the New York Yankees were to manage little league baseball clubs and then the really good kids from the area would end up playing for the Yankees. Not sure that type of system wouldn't be better for the growth and development of the sport, as opposed to the NFL and NBA using big universities as a farm system that don't pay their players.

Anonymous said...

http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/track-and-field/highlights-womens-shot-put-screams-compilation.html

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh

Anonymous said...

God I hate soccer. So inferior to all three of the major American sports.

David said...

Steve, I didn't understand a word of this post. Leave the snark to us commenters. You be clear and precise and non-euphemistic, like the old Steve. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

Steve, I didn't understand a word of this post. Leave the snark to us commenters. You be clear and precise and non-euphemistic, like the old Steve. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

"When I grew up in an integrated neighborhood, every black boy knew he could kick white boy ass and every white boy cowered. It was like pitbulls and beagles."

It's not every black boy though is it fool?

What's so sick about anti-white racists talking about this like it's a good thing is the element of truth in it is the black population has maybe 5-6 times the percentage of extremely violent individuals than white (or other) groups. If it's around 1-2% for white it's around 10% for black and this difference is responsible for vast, vast quantities of bloodshed, assaults, stabbings, shootings, rapes and murders - literally millions of victims -most of them also black.

The crowing of anti-white racists over this - given the millions of black victims of the same phenomenon - shows that they are anti-black racists too.

The reality is the 1-2% of white men who are a certain way have a 100% chance of winning a fight with the c. 90% of black men who aren't that way and vice versa for the c. 10% or so of black men who are that certain way - although usually in a much more impulsive way - against men who aren't. If two men like that fight - regardless of ethnicity - one of them will probably be killed.

It's not a good thing.

.
"or in per capita scientific and cultural contributions by Ashkenazi Jews"

Not even remotely true.

I'd say your objectivity is at fault.

Anonymous said...

"Maybe they should form a Republican women's soccer team and a Democratic women's soccer team that would barnstorm around the country playing each other to see who deserves to win the election."
_________________________________
"I still want to see a pay-for-view Sarah Palin/Barack Obama Charity One-on-One Basketball game."____________________________

I'd bet a thousand she'd elbow him in the groin...and I'd love seeing it.

Anonymous said...

"Men's wrestling at the London Olympics has been dominated by Russia, with Iran and Georgia in the second tier."

Many if not most of Russia's medals in wrestling and judo have been won by its muslim minority from the Caucasus region. It is interesting to observe that male contestants from what was once the Persian Empire dominate in the strength sports: Iran, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia, the Caucasus...

Anonymous said...

"When I grew up in an integrated neighborhood, every black boy knew he could kick white boy ass and every white boy cowered."

You obviously aren't Irish-American or Italian-American. Poor you.

touche said...

Blacks beat up whites? Really?? So why is it that whites rank among the world's best soldiers? What kind of reputation do African militaries have? How have blacks performed historically in the U.S. Armed Forces?'

Poorly for the most part. Vietnam would have gone better without any of them, and WWII would have been won if they all stayed home and planned the civil rights movement. All due respect to the Tuskeegee Airmen, they weren't really needed. One general observed that white soldiers needed to take over the tank battles because too many blacks were doing so badly they would be getting themselves killed, as they seemed unable to maneuver or to figure out exactly where they should go. But of course that involved machinery.
In an organized war whites would win, guickly and totally. However, blacks conduct guerilla warfare in our metropolises, and that is quite a different thing.
One guy I knew years ago, who got into fights often enough, said blacks fight "dirty." Among whites there are rules and some kind of honor. There is neither among fighting blacks, among themselves or fighting other race people..

Anonymous said...

"But tiny Cuba won the most coveted prize: Greco-Roman heavyweight."

Indeed. The most dominant wrestler of this era is the afro-cuban Mijain Lopez fighting in the heaviest division, 120 kg.

Likewise the most dominant judo champion of the era is the afro-french Teddy Riner who fights in the heaviest division as well. +100 kg.

Both these grapplers have achieved legendary status in their sport.

Hapalong Cassidy said...

What's funny is that the original poster probably considers himself a conservative. For the WN types, conservative free-market principles go out the window when it comes to any area where minorities might outperform whites. And this applies to conservative positions other than economics. For example, where were the white conservatives when Plaxico Burress was sent to two years in prison for violating NYC's strict gun control laws?

Anonymous said...

"You obviously aren't Irish-American or Italian-American. Poor you."

HA HA HA HA HA.

Irish are all drunken bluster. How many of the FIGHTIN IRISH are really Irish?
And what did top Negroes do to Jerry Quarry and Gerry Buffooney?
And who was that guy who took on Tyson? The big potato sack.

As for Italians, it's all braggadocio. Most Italians are small and nothing special. Look at them kids shitting bricks after setting up a fight with the Negroes in THE WANDERERS. I mean that is SOOOOOO true to life. Italians talk big but they're the first to run. WWII.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jezfdIddEqE

14:00.

Peter said...

"Believe it or not, there is an enormous amount of pressure from feminists to make a fight between Anderson Silva, the consensus #1 pound-for-pound male MMA fighter, and Ronda Rhousey, the consensus #1female pound-for-pound MMA fighter."

Nonsense. I often read MMA forums, especially Sherdog, and there is nothing like "an enormous amount of pressure." Even the most ardent feminists understand that a match of that sort would make no sense.
It's not unimaginable that Rousey might compete against a man, but unless it were a "just for show" exhibition the man would almost surely be far less experienced.

Peter said...

"Many if not most of Russia's medals in wrestling and judo have been won by its muslim minority from the Caucasus region. It is interesting to observe that male contestants from what was once the Persian Empire dominate in the strength sports: Iran, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia, the Caucasus..."

Wrestling has been a very popular activity in that region for centuries.

Anonymous said...

"Oh dear, the post and comments musst really be terribly confusing to you."

I never done said I be smart.

Anonymous said...

"Btw, if Bolt had been American, he might have grown up to play basketball or football than go into track."

He might have become a cricketer instead

Anonymous said...

http://www.nbcolympics.com/nations/nation=great-britain/index.html?etx=medals&etx2=2012-medalists

Bikes, horses, paddles/oars, and sails.

Bikes. Ah, the British countryside.

Horses. Gentlemen hunting foxes.

Oars. Vikings used to invade Britain.

Sails. Glory days of British Imperialism.

gabboon said...

"God I hate soccer. So inferior to all three of the major American sports."

Make the goal bigger and it will be popular.

Whoever comes up with AMERICAN SOCCER with wider/higher goals will become the next billionaire.

David Davenport said...

Wonder which sport Janet Napolitano prefers, women's soccer, women's softball, or maybe beach volleyball?

Anonymous said...

"I think Steve's complaint boils down to "There are far too many silly sports in the Olympics""

That is a very legitimate complaint. Its ridiculous to see "sports" like synchronized swimming, synchronized diving, artistic gymnastics, trampoline, beach volleyball, track cycling, equestrian etc giving out gold medals hand over fist.

There are 46 gold medals awarded in swimming pool events, 36 in boating events, 18 in biking events. Wtf? The Olympics seem to be politically manipulated to inflate the gold medal counts of certain nations.

Severn said...

were the white conservatives when Plaxico Burress was sent to two years in prison for violating NYC's strict gun control laws?


Working hard to change those and other gun control laws. Next dumb question?

Anonymous said...

-- in explosive athleticism by blacks,
like swimming and weight lifting? jamacia is surrounded by water warm enough to train year round.. where's are the great 100 meter swimmers? why do even african nations like Zimbabwe send whites to swim/ ?

in raw IQ by Northeast Asians,
name the oriental issac newton, or da vinci

or in per capita scientific and cultural contributions by Ashkenazi Jews -- objectbivity goes by the wayside.
really... shakespeare? michaelangelo? in the visual arts, and literature??

Al said...

"China will never be able to compete at the high end of intellect "

Is there any good evidence for this? Chinese people seem to be pretty prominent in high level academic positions, many of which can only be attained through original and creative research. Additionally, they do well in math Olympiads.

Anonymous said...

Softball never had a chance - just a bunch of white and hispanic girls having fun in modest uniforms. Great prole sport to watch between frames at the bowling alley. I really miss it, it was a lot of fun to watch regular looking people perform a pedestrian game at such a high level.

Anonymous said...

"What does Sailer mean by USA USA?"

He's mocking jingoistic medal mongering and the cheesy triumphalism of the "grrrl power" idiots. Putting a bunch of 'roided up lesbians into unfeminine sports is a cheap way for a nation to rack up Oly medals. That's been his theme for the last week, if you hadn't noticed.

Aaron B. said...

"[Women's hockey] has some of the same appeal of women's tennis."

They play hockey wearing tank tops and tiny skirts these days?

Kylie said...

"...it's important that men 'man up' and ignore Feminists when they're being silly women.

(Seriously.)"


Hmmm...I'm pretty sure there's a tautology there but I agree with what I think was your point.

gumney said...

Obama's advantage over Romney.

Obama is an opportunist on the outside and will do anything to win.. but he does have core beliefs/ideology which is American-style leftism. Ideologically, he's very much in league with the left. So, there is core support for him from the Left.
But there is also support from Wall Street who know he'll play the game to remain president. Radicals know Obama is a radical at heart and moderates know he'll play the game.

With Romney, it's reversed. He has no core beliefs. There is nothing there. What is he at heart? A liberal? A conservative? At the core, he's nothing, and so he has no core supporters. At best, conservatives see him as the lesser of two evils. There is no love for him.
Yet, on the outside, Romney acts like he has these strong set of core values, but no one believes him since he's been all over the map.

So, Obama has a core but plays the game of opportunism on the outside to win in politics.
In contrast, Romney's core is opportunism but dons the mask of core values on the outside which no one believes.

It's better to be true on the inside and bullshit on the outside than be bullshit on the inside and pretend to be true on the outside.

Anonymous said...

"Indeed. The most dominant wrestler of this era is the afro-cuban Mijain Lopez fighting in the heaviest division, 120 kg."

You got this wrong, bud. The most dominant wrestler of the modern Olympics are is russian:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr_Karelin

Anonymous said...

"Obama is an opportunist on the outside and will do anything to win.. but he does have core beliefs/ideology which is American-style leftism."

Obama has supported the Wall St. bailout and interfered in Libya. Wall St. and imperialism - it's like a leftist cartoon of what right-wingers are like. That's in deed. On the pages of his boring book he really was a leftist.

It doesn't seem to me that he has more core beliefs than Romney.

Anonymous said...

"The most dominant wrestler of the modern Olympics are is russian"

Karelin was the most dominant wrestler of the 1990s. Mijain Lopez is the most dominant wrestler of the current decade. Different eras.

Anonymous said...

"jamacia is surrounded by water warm enough to train year round.. where's are the great 100 meter swimmers?"

Anthony Nesty of Suriname, a caribbean rim country, was an Olympic and World champion in the 100 meter butterfly.

Cullen Jones of the USA is part of the 4x100 medley relay team that has won Olympic gold, besides winning silver in the 50 meter freestyle and silver in the 4x100 freestyle relay.

I think the number of black champions in swimming is probably better than proportional to the small number of blacks practicing for the Olympics.

Anonymous said...

Paul Ryan, yes!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Public violence from women is an emerging 21st century social problem. Now it's an Olympic sport too.

Gilbert P.

Anonymous said...

"Make the goal bigger and it will be popular."

And the field smaller. (I still don't think it'll be a hit although it would be more popular with more scoring.) Perhaps allow the guy with possession of the ball to block, push the guy coming at him with crossed arms, the way
offensive linemen used to have to block. Yeah, I can see a guy blasting the chest of the opponent coming his way--but just the chest.

Anonymous said...

"Make the goal bigger and it will be popular."

And the field smaller.


They had that. It's called indoor soccer. There's even rebounds. The field is much smaller. I don't think the goal is larger - it may even be smaller - but the smaller field and rebounds make up for it with more action. There was a pro indoor soccer league in the US for 3 years in the mid-90s.

So I'm not sure that would work.

irishman said...

Anonymous said...
"God I hate soccer. So inferior to all three of the major American sports.

8/10/12 3:31 PM"
Which one?
The stupider, duller crasser version of cricket, the pansy version of rugby or the one where a selection of your finest bantu men get their asses regularly handed to them by our version of Mexicans.

"Anonymous said...
I meet a British woman who told me that even there, no one and she repeated no one watches high school girls play soccer. She said a typical secondary school girls soccer match might have 3-5 people in the stands on a good day. In the US by contrast, she said the mother and father of every girl on the home team would be there, plus at least one parent on the visiting team, plus a lot of people who just like watching high school sports. She emphasized that high school sports simply are not attended in the UK. My guess would be because in Europe, youth teams are organized under the umbrella of professional clubs, and are run as that team's youth division. So the good players aren't playing for schools, but for pro teams. In this country it would be like if the New York Yankees were to manage little league baseball clubs and then the really good kids from the area would end up playing for the Yankees. Not sure that type of system wouldn't be better for the growth and development of the sport, as opposed to the NFL and NBA using big universities as a farm system that don't pay their players.

8/10/12 3:03 PM"

We don't have to pretend to care about girls trying to play sport here in Europe because once upon a time we demanded and received our right to things like healthcare and education we don't need to play sport to go to college. But don't worry, the EU is chipping away at out social rights one by one. We'll be prancing about like apes soon enough.

The conspiracy theorist in me thinks that American college sports and especially title 9 exist because America needed a way to devote massive amounts of money to sport because of the need for Superpower prestige.

elvisd said...
My principal used to call soccer "communist kickball".

8/10/12 3:15 AM

Your Principal is an idiot. Soccer is tits.

DaveinHackensack said...

""Make the goal bigger and it will be popular."

Soccer already has a big goal, which is one reason why the success rate of penalty kicks is close to 80%. The reason the game is low-scoring isn't because of the size of the goal, but because of the difficulty of getting into a scoring position with the ball.

That's a feature of the game, not a bug. If it were easy, it wouldn't be interesting. But, because it's hard, it's fun to watch a great team slice the field with passes (like the Spanish national team did during the Euro 2012 Championship).

If you want to watch a game with lots of scoring, watch basketball. the downside of that sport is that the first half / three quarters of the game is often relatively meaningless (except perhaps for foul trouble, or the relatively rare occasion of huge lead early on). In soccer, because goals are relatively rare, they are hugely important, so every time a team gets in scoring position, it gets exciting.

Fox Sports plays EPL games on weekends now during the season. Flip it on for a few Saturday mornings. The game grows on you. I didn't think it would, but it does.

Anonymous said...

"When I grew up in an integrated neighborhood, every black boy knew he could kick white boy ass and every white boy cowered."

That has a lot to do with blacks reaching puberty earlier than whites, and the particular blacks who were brought to the US being deliberately bred specifically for size and brutality.

Anonymous said...

irishman.. despite being a Mick myself, honestly, go fuck yourself

Anonymous said...

Steve's recent posts have been about as interesting as watching women's soccer.

Anonymous said...

African-American wrestler Jordan Burroughs defeats Iranian to win Gold medal and earn himself a bonus of a quarter million dollars:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/19216479

Anonymous said...

No need to hard-sell soccer (I'm sorry futbol); with our changing demographics, its' future preeminence is inevitable. How exactly does that benefit us or anybody else? Monotony is the spice of life? Why is The World so concerned that we are missing out on the glories of soccer?

Anonymous said...

"Wonder which sport Janet Napolitano prefers, women's soccer, women's softball, or maybe beach volleyball?"

involving some other kind of balls apparently

Tiberius Jones said...

"... and the particular blacks who were brought to the US being deliberately bred specifically for size and brutality."

I don't think anyone was breeding slaves for brutality. What good are a group of sadistic, depraved slaves? They wouldn't obey, the moment your back is turned they would try to f*ck up your property, or kill each other, you or your family. Seriously. Psychotics don't even make good soldiers. That's why the army screens 'em out. African-Americans seem if anything to be a little less violent and crime prone than their full-African brethren everywhere else around the world, though still far more so than other Americans. That suggests that if anything, intermarriage, slavery, breeding,etc. could have reduced the inherent brutality. Or being raised in a first world society.

Anonymous said...

Irishman, you need to spend less time bloviating on American sports and more time trying to get back your whole country.

Though most in those six counties would tell you to go screw yourself.

Anonymous said...

"That has a lot to do with blacks reaching puberty earlier than whites, and the particular blacks who were brought to the US being deliberately bred specifically for size and brutality."

More BS. Black men beat up white men too.

Anonymous said...

"in fact, the NBA itself makes a fascinating economics study, bringing to bear all the ideas of guys like obama, who want to transfer all the wealth to africans. what ACTUALLY happens when you transfer 1 billion dollars a year in salary directly to africans? you get retired NBA players who, in some kind of world record amazing performance, are able to make 20, 30, 40 million dollars disappear into thin air in 3 to 5 years, with ZERO productive return on the money."

Couldn't NBA contracts be written as annuities?

For example: Joe Smith signs with the Dallas Mavericks for $10million.

Okay, but the fine print is that this is annuitized over say 20 years. So, he gets a $100k signing bonus up front that he gets to keep if he doesn't test positive for drugs or get convicted of a felony etc, and can't play. But the $10million over 5 years is actually paid as 5 $2million dollar annuities that each pay about $100K a year for 20 years.

The team owners don't pay players directly rather they pay them with non-transferrable (except by death) annuities. The players are their own trust fund babies.

Yes, I know people can borrow against future guaranteed income, but lenders prefer to be paid sooner than later, so there would only be so much credit they could get. There is also the psychological impact of seeing too many zeros on your bank statement. Those would not be there.

Anonymous said...

"When I grew up in an integrated neighborhood, every black boy knew he could kick white boy ass and every white boy cowered."

Must have been some pansy ass city. Rural white boys from Georgia to Kansas to Idaho to Saskatchewan would be more than happy to show cowering city wimps how it's done.

Anonymous said...


With Romney, it's reversed. He has no core beliefs. There is nothing there. What is he at heart? A liberal? A conservative? At the core, he's nothing, and so he has no core supporters.


Wrongo.

Romney's core belief is in Mormonism. That intersects with American patriotism. America has special religious significance for Mormons that it does not have for Christians, Jews, even though they see the propositional ideas of American as aligned with their self interest.

Obama suffers from a permanent identity crisis. So, no wonder he can't settle on core beliefs beyond influence peddling and promoting the ideology and surface appearance of equalitarianism, ironically to enrich and elevate himself.

Chris said...

"Fox Sports plays EPL games on weekends now during the season. Flip it on for a few Saturday mornings. The game grows on you. I didn't think it would, but it does."

This. The game really does grow on you. I went from being an NFL fan to a soccer fan over about four years. I can't even watch a live NFL game anymore, even though I still love the game itself. The "made for TV" approach adds 2,5 hours of filler. And since I only have time for one sport at a time, NFL is gone.

Plus the relegation/promotion approach, Champions League for the elite teams, and the in-season Cups make it far more entertaining that, say, the interminable baseball season. I would probably watch American sports again if they could just introduce those superior approaches.

Justthisguy said...

Of course a woman, pound for pound, can't match a man in a fight. This is why all of the sensible women I know keep a pistol. Hell, _I_ keep a pistol for similar reasons, being almost old enough for Medicare and weighing maybe 135 lbs, soaking wet.

Mr. Anon said...

The only thing that could be more boring than soccer is women's soccer. The only thing that could be more boring than women's soccer is olympic women's soccer. The only thing more boring than olympic women's soccer would be watching the US olympic women's soccer team win.

How long until we will see olympic women's roller-derby?

ATBOTL said...

Steve, please stop posting comments from this long time troll:

"Americans have the diversity advantage. In brain power, it has Jews. In muscle power, it has blacks. The trade-off is smarter Jews gained power over whites and stronger blacks beat up whites. "

Svigor said...

In an organized war whites would win, guickly and totally. However, blacks conduct guerilla warfare in our metropolises, and that is quite a different thing.

Blacks don't conduct guerrilla warfare in our cities. A remarkable propensity for violent crime is just that, not "guerrilla warfare." If you're looking for some organization somewhere, look to the ruling elite, which facilitates black violence via anarcho-tyranny.

What's funny is that the original poster probably considers himself a conservative. For the WN types, conservative free-market principles go out the window when it comes to any area where minorities might outperform whites. And this applies to conservative positions other than economics. For example, where were the white conservatives when Plaxico Burress was sent to two years in prison for violating NYC's strict gun control laws?

Principles that trump self-interest are stupid. E.g., Bob values free-market principles, but he realizes that others don't; they run their countries according to the principles of economic nationalism. They give their corps tax breaks that don't apply in Bob's country, let them use slave labor, and don't hold them to any labor or safety laws. All that adds up to a substantial savings in the cost of doing business. If Bob is a total jackass, he insists on allowing those same others to do business in his country according to free-market principles, even though they don't reciprocate; they may put barriers in front of companies from Bob's country, or prevent them from doing business at all. If Bob has sense, he supports enforcing reciprocity on these shady types, by whatever means are available.

Or Bob can choose to be a sucker so shady types like Hapalong can game him. Either way.

What's really amazing about this site to me is how this constant two-bit game run by the more sociopathic races (and their useful idiots) has gone on here non-stop for years. If I had to guess, I'd say this type of behavior is 100% genetic. The forms may emerge through a cultural filter, but there's something genetic behind it, because nothing slows it down.

Anonymous said...

Cullen Jones of the USA is part of the 4x100 medley relay team that has won Olympic gold,
he nearly lost the raced for the US- look at a replay he almost looks like he's standing still comapared to the rest.
50 meters is about as far as black swimmers can go fast -
USA swimming has a full time diversity officer- and no doubt the recent decline in our domination of swimming is in part because we are trying to be 'diverse'

Svigor said...

And I'm not a conservative, but I'm not sure what your point is about the aflete who broke NY law. 1, real conservatives are into States' Rights; if New Yorkers want to shred the Constitution in New York, let 'em. 2, conservatives are into rule of law, which means if de facto law says no guns in NY, then no guns in NY. 3, plenty of conservatives are on the ball enough to know that America doesn't have a gun violence problem, but a black crime problem - control for black crime and the gun violence problem disappears. 4, I bet there are a few conservatives who'd be okay with taking guns from blacks, but letting Whites have them, same as they're okay with letting adults have them, but not children.

Justthisguy said...

Svigor, you are so harsh, with all of that hate truth. Sorry, Truth, but an awful lot of your people can't be trusted with deadly weapons.

Anonymous said...

@Anonymous 3:31 PM

"God I hate soccer. So inferior to all three of the major American sports."

You see, this is one of those comments that makes people throughout the World think that Americans are a bunch of insular xenophobic morons.

So "soccer" is boring and American football is exciting? How is a sport that has 3 hours of intervals and 15 minutes of action exciting? Sailer once commented that football is the perfect sport for T.V since it has so many intervals for commercials. Yeah, because that is what makes a sport exciting: a lot of commercial intervals! Americans cannot help but being super-capitalists about everything.

I am sorry to break this to you sport(pun intended), but no one in the World cares about your American sports. The only people in the World who watches football are...Americans. Baseball has a very minimum popularity in Japan and the Caribbean, and that's it.

And "soccer" doesen't need America to like it for it to thrive. Europeans and East Asias have plenty of money, and they are willing to pay big bucks to watch professional "soccer". Cristiano Ronaldo doesen't need one penny from Americans to buy his new Ferrari. "Soccer" doesen't need America. And why do you Americans call your sport "football"? It is "soccer" that deserves to be called that since the sport is played with the feet. American football is played mostly with the hands. And it is amazing to me that 4% of Humanity think that they are right about "soccer" being boring and the other 96% are wrong. In this case, ad populum does apply since which sport is more exciting is a matter of subjective opinion.

Anonymous said...

"The only thing that could be more boring than soccer is women's soccer."

Beach soccer with bikiners?

Anonymous said...

Beach bowling.

Anonymous said...

Beach golf.

Anonymous said...

"You see, this is one of those comments that makes people throughout the World think that Americans are a bunch of insular xenophobic morons."

Out of concern for the sensitivities of The World, please let them know that the US is no place for soccer fans - let it know that it will be much happier is it never sets foot across the border.

Anonymous said...

Its really boring how if you criticize "futbol" then dweebs from all over the world attack you. How dare you criticize their Number 1 sport. Why, its the greatest sport, ever, ever. Yeah right.

Excuse us 'Ugly Americans' for telling the truth. Its a dull sport to watch, probably even duller than baseball.

David Davenport said...

"You see, this is one of those comments that makes people throughout the World think that Americans are a bunch of insular xenophobic morons."

Soccer/futbol is an excellent game for women, girls, small boys, and foreigners.

DaveinHackensack said...

I still watch the NFL, but what I do is pause live TV for a half hour or so after the game starts. That way, I can fast forward through most of the commercials and still be caught up by the end of the game.

Anonymous said...

Out of concern for the sensitivities of The World, please let them know that the US is no place for soccer fans - let it know that it will be much happier is it never sets foot across the border

Oh, dear. I hate to have to break it to you, but soccer is already here in a big way. More Americans play soccer every day than play American football.

Anonymous said...

@ the dude

I stopped watching TV news 20 years ago. I stopped reading newspapers 6 years ago. I get all my commentary, news and analysis from the web.

This doesn't tell us whether the content has changed or only the medium. Most people now get their news via the web from the same companies that used to sell them newspapers.

Anonymous said...

But somehow I just don't see Obama as the sort who would jump in to final battle, sword in hand like a common soldier, to go down doing his part in the struggle for his country like Constantine XI Palaiologos.

The sentiment of this being his country is foreign to Obama.

Kylie said...

"I bet there are a few conservatives who'd be okay with taking guns from blacks, but letting Whites have them, same as they're okay with letting adults have them, but not children."

Yep, guns and dogs both.

Anonymous said...

How about solley ball? It's soccer but you can pound the ball with fists as in volley ball.

Anonymous said...

no one in the World cares about your American sports. The only people in the World who watches football are...Americans. Baseball has a very minimum popularity in Japan and the Caribbean, and that's it.

Basketball is the most American sport of all (invented from scratch here) and is fantastically popular around the world.

In a huge HBD upset, a white Russian woman (Savinova) just beat a black male (Caster Semenya) in the 800m. (Yes, Semenya runs as a woman but is biologically a man).

Anonymous said...

"More Americans play soccer every day than play American football."

Yes, and very few watch it. Somewhat like bass fishing or croquet.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 4:10 PM

"Its really boring how if you criticize "futbol" then dweebs from all over the world attack you. How dare you criticize their Number 1 sport. Why, its the greatest sport, ever, ever. Yeah right.

Excuse us 'Ugly Americans' for telling the truth. Its a dull sport to watch, probably even duller than baseball."

"Dweeb"? I am 6'4 and 240 lbs with visible abs, and I would kill you in a fight.

I couldn't care less about American football OR soccer. The sports I care about are boxing and MMA. In fact, I hold a black belt in Kyokushin karate, a purple belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu and I also fight in Muay Thai tournaments. BOTH soccer and American football are boring. BUT American football is 100 X more boring. Sorry, it is simply a fact.

Anonymous said...

Yet another balls-out, worldwide HBD scrum and not a single significant mention of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh or Sri Lanka.
A full fifth of the human race is but shadows.

Anonymous said...

@Dave Davenport

Too bad that 96% of the Human Species does not agree with you, since "soccer" is by far the most popular MALE sport in the World. Actually, that is an understatement: "soccer" is the most popular sport in the World. Period. But you get my point. And no one cares that Americans don't like "soccer": billions of people keep watching it, and pro "soccer" players are multi-millionaires.

And the way that American football players pat each other in the ass after each play is very gay.

Anonymous said...

"Yet another balls-out, worldwide HBD scrum and not a single significant mention of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh or Sri Lanka.
A full fifth of the human race is but shadows."

If you analyze most of the threads they get derailed when someone injects some divide and rule virus into the stream so the absence of the countries you mention would be the result of them not being prime divide and rule material yet.

Anonymous said...

Even if there were some scale by which to measure how exciting a sport is, are we obliged to follow the sport with the highest grade? Where is this pressure to embrace soccer coming from? Who cares how dangerous and manly MMA is? It is not nearly as dangerous as tightrope walking or free solo rock climbing, or even sailing. Does that mean if we are real men, we must follow these also? Hurling is a lot more fun to watch than soccer, why hasn't the ignorant obtuse World embraced it?

Keep your soccer and leave us our sports. We have a cultural identity, just as unique as that of Mexico, France, Italy or China, and sports are one component of it. I don't go to Italy and tell them they should be playing horseshoes instead of bocce.

Anonymous said...

"Yet another balls-out, worldwide HBD scrum and not a single significant mention of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh or Sri Lanka.
A full fifth of the human race is but shadows."

Like american fetish for (professional)sports that nobody else but they play, the subcontinent is content with cricket. Though as immigration to western countries increases, there are bound to be more 'national' cricket teams filled with people of subcontinental descent.
Diversity and multiculturalism FTW

Anonymous said...

"Dweeb"? I am 6'4 and 240 lbs with visible abs, and I would kill you in a fight.

Fight? Yeah, you'd be shot dead.

Anonymous said...

"I bet there are a few conservatives who'd be okay with taking guns from blacks, but letting Whites have them, same as they're okay with letting adults have them, but not children."

"One law for the lion & the ox is oppression."
William Blake

Anonyia said...

"In a huge HBD upset, a white Russian woman (Savinova) just beat a black male (Caster Semenya) in the 800m. (Yes, Semenya runs as a woman but is biologically a man)."

A white Russian woman also pulled in bronze. I honestly believe U.S culture is pushing whites away from the middle distances now too. Which is a shame, because I don't think blacks have an physical advantage past 200 meter sprints.

Anonymous said...

"the subcontinent is content with cricket.". Good for them! When and if I ever go to India, I would certainly rather attend a cricket match than a soccer game. Somebody has to stand strong against the zeitgeist. Do they serve tea? If I go, I want tea and the whole Indian experience, or else, why bother going at all?

irishman said...

"Anonyia said...
"In a huge HBD upset, a white Russian woman (Savinova) just beat a black male (Caster Semenya) in the 800m. (Yes, Semenya runs as a woman but is biologically a man)."

A white Russian woman also pulled in bronze. I honestly believe U.S culture is pushing whites away from the middle distances now too. Which is a shame, because I don't think blacks have an physical advantage past 200 meter sprints.

8/12/12 12:56 PM"

Semenya threw the race. That is obvious to anyone who actually saw it. The poor fella couldn't take the heat of winning so he has been doing this for a while.

Anonymous said...

"I am 6'4 and 240 lbs with visible abs, and I would kill you in a fight."

Doubtful, I'm 6'6" 260 lbs with a black belt and 10% body fat.

Truth said...

"Cullen Jones of the USA is part of the 4x100 medley relay team that has won Olympic gold,
he nearly lost the raced for the US- look at a replay he almost looks like he's standing still comapared to the rest."

And how many Olympic medals do you have, again?

"Sorry, Truth, but an awful lot of your people can't be trusted with deadly weapons."

And if you watch the news, an awful lot of yours.

"
"Dweeb"? I am 6'4 and 240 lbs with visible abs, and I would kill you in a fight...
Doubtful, I'm 6'6" 260 lbs with a black belt and 10% body fat."

AND I'M...OW MY BALLS! LMAO

Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
"I am 6'4 and 240 lbs with visible abs, and I would kill you in a fight."

Doubtful, I'm 6'6" 260 lbs with a black belt and 10% body fat."

Well I'm 10'7" 10,000 lbs and I'll just sit on you so I will.

Ogre Palowakski said...

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Anonymous said...

Interesting that Japan won most of its gold medals in wrestling. Just like Iran...

While the UK won the majority of its golds in riding (on horses, bikes and boats)...

And the US won more than half it's golds in racing (on land and water)....

DaveinHackensack said...

Although it's true that women's soccer isn't popular in most other countries, that's also true of more obscure women's sports (e.g., women's weight lifting, shot put throwing, etc.). Nevertheless, that doesn't stop major countries from cultivating female athletes in those sports in the hopes of winning Olympic medals. In that context, isn't the US women's soccer victory impressive?

Anonymous said...

"Interesting that Japan won most of its gold medals in wrestling. Just like Iran..."

Women's events don't count.

Anonymous said...

"I am 6'4 and 240 lbs with visible abs, and I would kill you in a fight."

I got a friend named Smith-Wesson.

Anonymous said...

"That has a lot to do with blacks reaching puberty earlier than whites, and the particular blacks who were brought to the US being deliberately bred specifically for size and brutality."

More BS. Black men beat up white women too.


Until Roger Huerta comes along.