May 26, 2011

Bloomberg View versus iSteve

Michael Bloomberg, ninth richest man in America and mayor of New York, has debuted his expensive new online opinion magazine: Bloomberg View. For example, here are its five latest op-eds

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I haven't actually read any of these, so maybe Bloomberg View will turn out to be more fun than it looks. Still, here's my question: 

Which is more interesting: Bloomberg View or iSteve

41 comments:

Traveller said...

"Which is more interesting: Bloomberg View or iSteve? "

How can this be answered? It depends on single article basis.

Your posts about "Colleges vs Ivy Leagues" or stuff are somewhat boring, at least from an European point of view. Others are interesting.

The links you reported lead to very short articles, I am not impressed by them.

Tscottme said...

iSteve and VDare are the more interesting compared to Bloomberg. Steve, your blog is the most dangerous blog I read. Even if Bloomberg was publishing discussions between the greats of our times on important topics, is there any doubt it would be rigorously PC and one more outlet for the predictable conventional wisdom? Most of the web is about as predictable as a Law & Order episode.

Thanks for taking the risk to say what needs to be said on iSteve.

headache said...

Bloomberg View is just more of the same old same old: to force your view through with money, just like he bought the governor's office. Boring.

Zachary Latif said...

I enjoy reading Amity Shlaes; she's really quite good.

eh said...

Which is more interesting: Bloomberg View or iSteve?

Not sure. But since I probably won't take the time to read it, I'll declare you the winner by default.

I do seem to have an impression of Ezra Klein as a typical knee-jerk idiot liberal; this impression must have formed at some time and for some reason...

Eivind said...

Bloomberg view, generally speaking, though on occasion you're amusing.

Anonymous said...

Why would you invite a comparison that you're bound to come out of looking poor? A full-fledged magazine with plenty of resources behind it and a multitude of famous and/or entertaining writers vs. a lone blogger?

I would rather compare you to your peers, i.e., White Nationalist bloggers. And in that comparison, you come out looking rather well. The antisemitism is muted, one could even say toned down to a level acceptable in polite company. Likewise for the sneers about African-Americans and other minorities.

You could do better, of course. Give up on the notion of preserving white privilege for lazy, not-too-bright Americans of European descent. It's a pipe dream. Can't be done. Even if that is what brings most of your readers here.

You're a good writer, Steve. If you wanted, you could write in the vein of your best pieces that look back wistfully on a bygone era.

Screw the sullen, resentful, whiny hordes of people who come here to find affirmation for their claims of being victimized by Goldberg and Taniqua. You are better than them.

Anonymous said...

Amity Shlaes: Sexier-n-Hades, but good gawd she has a heart of coal.

Anonymous said...

What, no article penned by the magazine's namesake calling for restocking Detroit with boatloads of immigrants? Shocking!

Fred said...

Just from the titles, iSteve is more interesting. But Bloomberg is aiming for more influential rather than more interesting, I'd guess.

Carol said...

Yes I don't use the Internet to read this MSM-type of conventional wisdom. I like provocative, counterintuitive stuff. MSM doesn't do that.

Anonymous said...

No contest. iSteve is far more interesting. Bloomberg is basically unsupported opinion.
Robert Hume

Anonymous said...

those headlines bore me to tears

Anonymous said...

Isteve, of course....but wouldn't Bloomberg be really good if Isteve was a regular, and well paid, contributor? I think we know the answer.

Anonymous said...

Off Topic: Mark Steyn compares white Californians to white Rhodesians. Wow!

http://tinyurl.com/3un2bmr

RS said...

Shlaes is not totally boring. She was on Econtalk for her book saying FDR prolonged the Depression. I lack the background to really opine on it, but my sense is there's probably something to it.

Krugman, responding to the book, said there is a whole industry of such thoughts operating mostly out of right wing think tanks. I guess his point was that these intellectuals cannot hack it in our free-inquiry, politically-unbiased university academe, so they are forced to sing for their supper of biased partisan lucre.

However, the mag does sound pretty boring next to Sailer.

SF said...

Your best stuff is way better than this. But "Oil, Islam and Women" is interesting for the unspoken corollary hypothesis that might be applied to the US. A diverse, information based economy leads to more job opportunity for women, as compared to an oil-based economy. Since our big problem in the US is the decline in traditional male jobs, maybe we need some trade barriers to reestablish our manufacturing and extractive sectors.

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Anonymous said...

"Give up on the notion of preserving white privilege for lazy, not-too-bright Americans of European descent."

April unemployment:
8% White
16% Black
12% Hispanic

How lazy can you be while creating the most democratic, free, and powerful country in the world?

How likely is it to continue so with massive low IQ immigration and the simultaneous loss of social capital, vide Robert Putnam?

Robert Hume

Anonymous said...

that second one about the womens reglious oil wrestling in the workplace looks pretty interesting.

fish said...

Krugman, responding to the book, said there is a whole industry of such thoughts operating mostly out of right wing think tanks. I guess his point was that these intellectuals cannot hack it in our free-inquiry, politically-unbiased university academe, so they are forced to sing for their supper of biased partisan lucre.


I used to dislike Krugman. Now I just pity him.

glib, facile n snarky said...

The really interesting thing about Bloomberg is that as a globalist he's rather paranoid about any nationalist, closed-border, self-sufficiency types. Some of the articles are OK, however, the psychological dimension might be a Freudian wet dream. He's got all this money and influence yet he's still capable of creating a foofaraw over some backwoods nobody with a non-Ivy degree would prefer "by Americans for Americans" manufacturing. Go figure.

steve burton said...

OT - Just in case it might afford Steve or anybody else here a moment's amusement, I've done my best to reply, on Sailer's behalf, to Larry Auster's latest attack on him.

Yeah, I know - total waste of time. But still - I think I made a pretty good job of it.

Anonymous said...

iSteve is interesting largely by being written from a different persective, with different assumptions and blind spots and such. It's not that the conventional view of the world is especially dumb--it's not, really. It's that anyone who consumes much US media can already understand the conventional US ruling class view of the world fairly well, having had plenty of opportunity to see it.

This is why I like Democracy Now for news, to be honest. It's not like I think they're better at journalism than, say, NPR or Fox. Indeed, they've fewer resources, less access, and probably are at least as ideologically blinded. But their slant and blind spots are *different* from those of the MSM.

The great thing about blogs is that they offer a chance to find genuinely independent voices, written from different assumptions, relationships, etc., than the MSM. Sailer, Greenwald, Sullivan, Balko, Coates, Cowen, among many others, are coming at the world from a different enough perspective that you might learn something from them, rather than simply hearing what the latest justification for the ruling class's Libya policy is, or hearing yet another, ever-so-slightly improved explanation of why affirmative action in education isn't really quite the same thing as legally mandated discrimination in favor of the preferred ethnic group.

Kylie said...

"You could do better, of course. Give up on the notion of preserving white privilege for lazy, not-too-bright Americans of European descent. It's a pipe dream. Can't be done. Even if that is what brings most of your readers here."


You're not capable of doing better, of course. Give up on the notion of redistributing white privilege to lazy, not-too-bright Americans of non-European descent. It's a pipe dream. Can't be done. Even if that is what brings most of your ilk here to deny the obvious truth.

Wandrin said...

"You could do better, of course. Give up on the notion of preserving white privilege for lazy, not-too-bright Americans of European descent. It's a pipe dream. Can't be done."

This is your peak, just before the collapse, same as always.

Anonymous said...

Haha, get a load of this spin.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-daum-obamaspeak-20110526,0,2181176.column

Obama spin is now scraping the bottom of the barrel. What a Daumass this Meghan is. And I suppose if he farts, it's because his body's filled with excess holiness.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

iSteve is 27.4 times more interesting than Bloomer View. This is because iSteve talks about race. As a Pomo Victorian, I think only about race, for the same reason real Victorians only cared about sex: it is forbidden to speak honestly about them.

Let's try being Double Victorians.
Say, shouldn't your piano be wearing pantaloons? Its limbs are unclothed. An African-American scholar or a vibrant youth might see those limbs and think something unmentionable. Worse still, what if a white male oppressor were to see those limbs and commit a hate crime against a disadvantaged minority?

Oh, and an evil white male might say your piano wants to be ravished.


That was fun.

Anonymous said...

"The really interesting thing about Bloomberg is that as a globalist he's rather paranoid about any nationalist, closed-border, self-sufficiency types."

This is why Texas should pay all its Mexican immigrants to go live in NY.
Put up signs all over the SW and the Deep South.
"NY, A LIBERAL PARADISE THAT OFFERS FREE EVERYTHING TO BLACKS AND IMMIGRANTS. GO NOW AND GRAB YOUR SLICE OF BIG APPLE."

Anonymous said...

What Sailer's blog needs is more bells and whistles. A cooler format, more images, more video, etc. More razzle dazzle.

David Davenport said...

Is this *View* part of Mikey B.'s *Business Week*? I can't tell if it is or not.

The inneresting question is, "How profitable will *Bloomberg Business Week* be, longer term?

One suspects that B-Berg B-Week, at least the print version thereof, will be a money loser which won't stay afloat unless Mikey B. subsidizes it.

A vanity press publication similar to Mortimer Zuckerman's *U. S. News and World Report,* that's probably *Bloomberg Business Week*'s future.

Too bad, so sad.

jody said...

norway gets the most money from oil of any nation, and women work there.

Kylie said...

Steve Burton said..."...I've done my best to reply, on Sailer's behalf, to Larry Auster's latest attack on him.

Yeah, I know - total waste of time. But still - I think I made a pretty good job of it."


I think you made a pretty good job of it, too.

But I admit I prefer Steve Sailer's oracular silence in [non]response to his critics--including me, when I accuse him of being too nice.

In particular, the way Steve takes the high road, in serene and apparently sincere indifference to Auster's spluttering and sniping, really tickles me.

spandrell said...

Steve, all your output was preceded by Cipolla, the Italian historian

http://www.searchlores.org/realicra/basiclawsofhumanstupidity.htm

Of course he used to live in SoCal.

BrokenSymmetry said...

iSteve beats it hands down, even if BV gets better with time than this maiden issue. Despite the disparity in resources, Steve has the ultimate "nuke", i.e. the freedom to opine freely on sensitive issues. Its like a breath of oxygen going from the MSM (and BV is probably a platform for Bloomberg to launch a future presidential bid and is hardly going to be a hotbed of non-PC views) to a forum where race, culture and politics can be discussed in an honest, clear-eyed manner.

Another thing iSteve has going for it is that over time it has built up an "ecotope" of regular commenters who are as informative and entertaining as the regular articles itself. It remains to be seen how "liberal" Komment Kontrol will be at BV.

Lastly, residing in Europe, I've noticed quite a few commenters labeling iSteve as an edgy, dangerous blog that one should never own up to following (pace Steve's efforts in setting up anonymous Twitter followers). Have things really come to this pass in the US?

Nanonymous said...

Have things really come to this pass in the US?

Yes. A mere admission of regularly reading iSteve will earn you a racist label and automatically disqualify you from a lot of jobs.

Grumpy Old Man said...

My eyes glazed over at the TITLES in Bloomberg.

Still, professional sports bore my profoundly, and now that my last kid's admitted to college (Cal Poly SLO, a bargain), some of your topics are "meh."

I like your stuff on HBD, immigration, race und so weiter.

Anonymous said...

April unemployment:
8% White


And all of them are on iSteve :)

Truth said...

"And all of them are on iSteve :)"

LOL, how the hell could I have missed that one?

Anonymous said...

You like humor, Truth?

O.K., I give you humor.... http://whitewhine.com/

10 times the fun of isteve and twice the heartburn for his readers! But since you all have your Maalox always ready, no problem, right?