November 2, 2010

Election night open thread

Since I don't have anything interesting to say yet, I'll rely upon you to comment upon the proceedings. I've got to write a VDARE piece on Wednesday, so please help me sound like I know what I'm talking about.

105 comments:

Anonymous said...

Tancredo loses. Damn. That idiot Dan Maes, who wouldn't drop out of the campaign, is at fault.

Also, I don't want to call anything, but it looks like the Democrats will keep the Senate. This is especially the case when you look at the McMahon-Blumenthal race and Manchin-Raese contest. Democrats won both.

Good News though: LOU BARLETTA BEATS KANJORSKI!!!!!!!

By the way, Barletta is on OUR side.

Waiting for my state Washington to close. I hope that we can throw Patty Murray outta office.

Cat Patrol said...

The centers of both political parties are on the Left side of the political scale.

Republicans will do well tonight, but thats different than conservatives doing well.

AmericanGoy said...

"The centers of both political parties are on the Left side of the political scale."

You cannot be serious?

What do you consider right wing then, Mussolini style fascism/corporatism and elite kleptocracy?

Because both parties are working diligently working towards that goal.

Enjoy the x-ray scan OR your nuts/vaginal area being patter down lovingly by a security "expert" when you fly, toodles.

Anonymous said...

"Republicans will do well tonight, but thats different than conservatives doing well."

No, no it's not.

look up 1994

Republicans act conservative when they have to. They have to now, or keep getting hammered by Obama.

hth

Whiskey said...

No, its not Dan Maes. Its nice White Ladies. They were the ones who handed Hickenlooper the Governorship.

Patty Murray cruises to re-election like Senator Ma'am. Jerry Brown is Governor Moonbeam again.

Lets face it, illegal immigration is a killer issue, because Nice White Ladies vote their class interests, in favor of it.

This night should have been a wipe-out. Yet the central issue regarding elections, class among Whites, makes it a Reid victory. Which along with Hickenlooper guarantees a lame-duck Amnesty bill.

Nice White Ladies LIKE lots of illegal immigrants. More "pet projects" for them to demonstrate moral uplift, "correct" politics, class distinctions, and of course punish "low class" Whites further down the economic/social scale.

I'm far less optimistic than I ever was regarding getting rid of Obama or Dems. Its Nice White Ladies (who age into that after being your typical College girls, i.e. uber-liberal).

Anonymous said...

First things first. The most interesting question is:

Will Alvin Greene get in?

MQ said...

If the Dems hold Nevada, Colorado, and Washington, as it looks like they might, then the Rs pick up 6 in the Senate to make it 53-47. Lieberman, Manchin, Nelson hold the majority and it will be extremely difficult to get to 60 for controversial legislation.

Lots of splashy proposals and investigations out of the House, but legislative stalemate for the next two years (after the lame duck session), battle front moves to implementing regulations on the big legislation passed over the last few years.

Anonymous said...

Steve,

Boxer? Brown? I'm a Californian so , in my gut, I knew what would happen, but I am still trying to digest why anyone would have held the maid thing against Whitman.

If anything, that story proved how easily docs can be forged. Why did people hold that against Whitman?

And Boxer? I guess I understand that result as being more inevitable because the average voter doesn't even know that on the Hill she's considered a really dumb, lazy, do-nothing senator. The Boxer ad about CEO Fiorina outsourcing jobs during the tech troubles was a highly effective ad, one which I feel Fiorina and her ad people didn't attempt to address. She could have gone on the offensive and explained, "My job as a CEO was to save the company during hard times; I did so and also saved money for the shareholders, which include many middle class working Californians like you who own shares of HP in your 401ks and 403bs and in your pension funds."

I just don't see a way out for California, do you?

Anonymous said...

How could anybody have listened to Blumenthal and tagged him as anything but a lapdog, and a dumb one, at that.

Billare said...

I don't even understand why it matters. What can Republicans do in the 6 or so years before another recalculation, which anecdotally seem to be coming more often these days? Democrats have a natural advantage when we simply trade off with them; we'll win "big" here but that can only stymie the inexorable march of leftism for so long. We really needed 70+ seats and major DNC figures' heads to topple and unfortunately it's looking like that's not going to happen. I'm not sure we're measure up to 2008 where they utterly crushed us; they took all branches of government, completely, and implemented their designs fully, something beyond the Republicans current scope. E.g., it's going to be nigh impossible to repeal the health care law since the Democrats have already irrevocably committed themselves to it, and it seems too many gears in private industry. have already wound up to begin its implementation. And always, Democrat-engineered demographic change works inexorably against us. Sure, the Republicans will adapt to new political niches -- but personally, I'm not one excited by the prospect of voting for neo Christian Democrats, which is what the future seems to hold.

Anonymous said...

Regarding Chris Matthews and his gang (Maddow, Olbermann, O'Donnell, etc) at MSNBC, they just interviewed Michelle Bachmann and were extremely rude, ignorant, and snarky.

These turds at MSNBC are acting like the cool/hip kids at school, ridiculing the great unwashed red-staters.

The elite's (both parties) disdain for regular Americans could be a tool used against them. Sam Francis' MARS Theory (Middle American Radicals) comes to mind.

Bob said...

The winners in California: elderly whites, as usual.

No on legal pot, no on vehicle and property taxes, yes on the clean air law, and 72-year-old Jerry Brown soundly beats the rich internet lady.

Bob said...

Also, California's elderly white liberal electorate meant that every white democrat running for statewide office won.

The only democrat to lose statewide is half Jamaican half Indian Kamela Harris.

This is not the first time this has happened. In the last big statewide election, white democrats also won a clean sweep (except against non-partison Arnold S.), while Cruz Bustamante was destroyed by the Republican.

Anonymous said...

The guys (I include Maddow in that word, appropriately) at MSNBC are very much betas. All they can do is pretend to be know-somethings, and throw temper-tantrums.

Fox's straight news anchor, Bret Baier, does a great job, I believe, and the panel of experts assembled there tonight have provide a lot of insight in their analyses and commentary.

Thankfully, O'Reilly and Hannity are left out of those panels.

I just heard that Reid will hang on to his seat. Too bad. SEIU get our the vote was too much for the contender.

Billare said...

Reid survives, at least according to the AP call as of now. This is really terrible, in my eyes, his head would have done served immensely to show Democrats that arrogance in drafting laws and pandering to illegal immigrants would not be tolerated, but no, he survives to wreak more havoc on the populace. I can't call this a win. It feels more like a respite from certain doom.

Anonymous said...

I just don't see a way out for California, do you?

Nope.

California is dead.

Jim Bowery said...

Predictably, the old media pundits were all about "who got how much of the latino vote" without, of course, ever mentioning how much of the total vote the latino vote represented.

This can be traced directly to the Austrian School of Economics influence on the Ron Paul folks -- the basic stance that you shouldn't bother securing the borders because labor should be transportable over borders.

Oh, of course, we should also get rid of the welfare state, corporate welfare, etc.

All in good time my friends...

airtommy said...

Do any of the newly elected Tea Partiers believe in small government? I don't recall hearing any one of them suggesting we should leave Iran alone, so the answer is a resounding NO!

Anonymous said...

I just don't see a way out for California, do you?

The late comedian Bill Hicks used to tell a joke about California falling into the ocean and the "cool, beautiful serenity" of the Arizona Bay which would be the result.

Wes said...

I'm afraid Whiskey is right about the nice White Ladies. They have been causing problems for a while.

But what really bothers me is this seems to be the best that we can muster. This is the most outrage I have ever witnessed in this country and we still can't take the Senate. So by "this country" I probably mean White people. And so, at our maximum anger, we can no longer take the senate and truly take 80 seats in House as some expected. This must be due to the demographic changes. I think we are screwed.

stari_momak said...

I'm hoping Alvin Greene gets north of 30% of the vote What better evidence that racial loyalty trumps all for blacks.

The Tancredo defeat and the Angle defeat are body blows -- though Tancredo truly was civic-minded in jumping in at the last minute. The only other observation would be that while the 'Tea Party' deserves respect for mobilizing voters, it (in as much as it is an organized entity) really needs to get a handle on vetting candidates. I'm sympathetic toward O'Donnell, but she had way too much recent baggage. Ditto Joe Miller up in Alaska. And really, the wife of the WWF guy? Let's get serious.

Disgruntled said...

Prop 19 is being defeated. With the recent decriminalization of possessing small quantities of pot, it is setting up a perfect situation for dealers. The cartels are going to be happy with the increased demand, and the police get to justify their budgets and seizures.

Fred said...

Manchin is more conservative than some GOP Senators. He's the sort of Dem who might switch parties if the GOP inflicts another rout on the Dems in '12.

Nanonymous said...

Well, well, looks like Dems are actually doing better than most expected - not only they will hold Senate but do so relatively solidly, 52-53 seats.

Which makes the upcoming circus all the more entertaining. Just remember - it's all circus, reality show for the masses.

nooffensebut said...

Is it me, or is the media ignoring what looks like a victory for the Arizona measure against “affirmative action”?

I am disappointed that Alvin Greene was not successful because I heard that Senator DeMint started the recession.

Anonymous said...

Oh come on Steve, you can't think of anything interesting to say about the prospects for patriotic immigration reform with Rubio already being hyped as the next VP candidate? Hell, why stop there? Why not just declare him the GOP's Obama and nominate him for president now? Also I think a Martinez or Sanchez won something in New Mexico. Tancredo went down hard.

Captain Jack Aubrey said...

1) It sucks that the GOP won't win the Senate, since that means Obama can get his appointments through, presumably including Ruth Ginsburg's replacement. The upside is that Dems will get blamed for the still bad economy we will have in 2012. The Dems had a terrific year in 2006, and so they have a lot of seats to defend in 2012.

2) Republicans are "suffering" from running a large number of unpolished candidates (Angle, O'Donnell, Paladino, etc.). But then the GOP can no longer afford polished congressmen...who go on to support liberal policies that destroy the GOP's reputation (and the economy).

3) Democratic support seems to be holding up in areas heavy in minority and SWPL voters (CA, WA, CO, OR,MA). White, middle class, private sector workers have probably swung the most towards the GOP. In part think it's also because the GOP lacked any coherent, nationwide campaign.

4) California may or may not be screwed. With Moonbeam as governor they're headed to bankruptcy - but they were headed there anyway. Moonbeam just gets them there more quickly, which is actually a good thing. House Republicans won't be in any mood to bail them out, though.

tommy said...

After looking at the disaster that is California and the Pacific NW tonight, I can only say that if our nation had an opportunity to make changes in the way we vote, I would recommend the following:

1. Whippersnappers Don't Vote: Raise the voting age to somewhere between 25-30 with the exception of military personnel. (If you are defending our country then, no question, you should get to vote. In fact, maybe you should get a vote weighted 1.5-2x the civilian vote.) I'm sick of idealistic idiots my age who vote other idealistic idiots into office.

2. Geezers Don't Vote: You don't get to vote after you reach retirement age + 5-6 years if you're taking government payouts. I'm tired of old people who not only demands theirs, but the grandkids' too. Want to vote later? Raise the retirement age or forego benefits.

3. Welfare Hos Don't Vote: No voting for those on long-term public assistance. If you're a ward of the state, then you don't get a say. That should leave most members of groups like ACORN in the cold.

4. "The Man" Doesn't Vote: No voting for those who are employed by the state or federal government. Public school teachers, DMV employees, etc. are public servants and should not be permitted to vote their own interests. They are there to serve The People, not to force The People to serve them. Too many of them are lazy, incompetent scumbags anyway.

5. Take a Lesson from Mexico: Adopt a system of voting verification at least equal to that found in Mexico. Mexico has a better system in place to prevent voting fraud than the United States and that's ridiculous.

6. Random Ostracism: Adopt a system whereby a percentage of incumbents (perhaps 25-30%) would be randomly disqualified from running another term just prior to election season. This would provide some of the advantages of term limits while limiting the problem of lame ducks.

Anonymous said...

Harry Reid wins over Angle.... Damn........ Really, really bad.....

Please Washington, put Rossi in office. We've had enough of Murray.

So sad to see Whitman and Fiorina go down in California.

Manchin shouldn't have won WV, but he did. Reid shouldn't have won. Boxer shouldn't have won. Hicklenlooper shouldn't have won against Tancredo.

By the way, that jack@ss Dan Maes killed the race for Tancredo. If he had gotten out, Tancredo would've won.

On the bright side, at least Democrats, controlling the Senate, will be held accountable for the economy in the 2012 election.

McMahon could've won the Senate if she gotten more female voters.

Chief Seattle said...

Good news here in WA is that without any gay measures on the ballot all of the anti-tax measures won. Pick your fights, boys.

Captain Jack Aubrey said...

Further:

Jerry Brown (listening to his victory speech now) sounds like a complete nutjob. Some sor of mental/ethical breakdown before his 4 years are up. Maybe another recall in the offing...

Chief Seattle said...

Having Dino Rossi lose is no great loss for the American cause. He's a chamber of commerce republican if I ever saw one. He makes the right noises about illegals at the same time he makes backroom deals to triple the H1-B numbers. The last thing the country needs is another pro-war, pro-debt Bush republican.

Anyways, gridlock is about the best we can hope for in DC.

nooffensebut said...

The pollsters mostly predicted what happened, but many of the "Tea Party" candidates did worse than expected. That is actually good news for Republicans. In fact, it looks like there are currently more write-ins in the Alaskan senate race than either the Democrat or the Palin-backed Tea Partier. This could mean that Palin will not have an opportunity to bring defeat to Republicans in another general election.

tommy said...

Jerry Brown (listening to his victory speech now) sounds like a complete nutjob.

In other words, he's perfect for California.

Having Dino Rossi lose is no great loss for the American cause.

It's true, but I would still liked to have seen Murray kicked to the curb.

Anonymous said...

The question now is whether Obama-Reid accelerate their agenda (by hook or by crook) or whether they back off.

I predict they will accelerate all types of immigration in the short time they have remaining, and find ways to advance various other nefarious and irreversible schemes, pedal to the metal.

Anon.

Anonymous said...

But what really bothers me is this seems to be the best that we can muster. This is the most outrage I have ever witnessed in this country and we still can't take the Senate. So by "this country" I probably mean White people. And so, at our maximum anger, we can no longer take the senate and truly take 80 seats in House as some expected. This must be due to the demographic changes. I think we are screwed.

No doubt demographic changes play a part in this as well as the fact that Whites are the most open minded group of the electorate. Blacks, hispanics and even Jews vote overwhelmingly for one side. Whites on the other hand are a 60-40 split at the extreme and sometimes are closer to 55-45. So demographics hurts, but if Whites voted as a block, they could still dominate elections.

Something else to keep in mind is that in 2010 there were not that many democratic senate seats up for grabs. In 2012 there will be significantly more democratic seats up for grabs so the chances of a republican takeover will improve.

eh said...

Not enough will change. Not nearly enough. Obviously. Duh.

Harry Reid. Total simpleton. Laughable, really. I cringe whenever I see/hear him. Yet he wins re-election in one of the hard-hit 'sand' states. The 'Stupid Party' couldn't find someone who could unseat this clown? Pathetic. The 'Stupid AND Incompetent Party' is what they really are.

Nancy Pelosi. She's gotta be one of the most repugnant politicians ever. Ever. Maybe she won't be majority 'leader' -- what joke!, Pelosi a 'leader' -- anymore, but she got re-elected in a landslide. Oops, that's not good.

Jerry Brown. I mean, I like a good museum as much as anyone. But really.

Not that all of that turning out otherwise would have made enough difference. See previous remark.

Does anyone seriously believe a majority Hispanic US will function as a 'superpower'? Yet that's where we're headed.

Absolutely not a single word about preventing that disaster.

Best case is a full-blown, official amnesty will stay stalemated. That's also, not altogether coincidentally, the worst case, because the unofficial, rolling amnesty will continue.

Not to mention legal immigration will remain unchanged.

See aforementioned demographic disaster reference.

Economically, US political and military hegemony will continue for a while, somewhat delaying the consequences of the dollar debasement known as 'quantitative easing'. Who knows for how long.

Good night.

Anonymous said...

Rossi is too pro-immigration for my taste, but he's vastly better than Patti Murray. He at least wants a border fence.

Also, Rossi is scared of the conservative base more than a McCain or Graham or Bush. If conservatives put pressure on immigration, he'll bend. Murray would not ever. Heck, Murray had illegal aliens working for her get out the vote campaign.

Rossi is also good on taxes and spending, which I like.

I think the Tea Party is a good thing, but it brought in a lot of unpolished candidates (Paladino, Linda McMahon, O'Donnell, Angle). Colorado got screwed up by Maes and Manchin is an exceptionally conservative Democratic. So some disappointments, but there's a lot to be hopefuly about.

Besides, if Democrats control the Senate, they can take the brunt for the bad economy agains in 2012.

Wandrin said...

"I'm afraid Whiskey is right about the nice White Ladies. They have been causing problems for a while."

Symptom not cause.

If the dominant culture was different they'd be different or at least there'd be fewer of them.

Fred said...

Perspective: most Congressional seats won by GOP since 1938.

nooffensebut said...

As far as immigration is concerned, the Nevada race repeated an important lesson for Republicans. John McCain pandered to Hispanics like nobody’s business. If Hispanic voters had supported him in 2008, he and the Democratic Congress probably would have passed comprehensive immigration reform, unlike Obama. Hispanic-Americans previously gave more support to Bush than they gave McCain. Bush and Rove may have wanted immigration reform, but I suspect the real reason Hispanic voters gave them more support was that Bush spoke Spanish and had a Hispanic relative campaign with him. Bush showed them respect in his campaign, but he increased deportations after reform failed. His approach contrasts with Angle’s campaign ads. Perhaps white voters were turned off by these ads. I suggest candidates de-personalize their conservative positions on immigration. Don’t insult Hispanics. Show that you actually like them without abandoning the conservative position, which can be supported in a variety of ways without being insensitive. Illegal immigration is an environmental issue, a wage issue, a jobs issue, a law-and-order issue, and a national security issue.

Wandrin said...

It's a shame about Angle and Tancredo as i was looking forward to seeing people like Maddow explode.

Anonymous said...

"Symptom not cause.

If the dominant culture was different they'd be different or at least there'd be fewer of them."


Absolutely right. Whiskey is a one-note wonder. Women didn't cause this mess, though they certainly help perpetuate it.

Anonymous said...

"Republicans will do well tonight, but thats different than conservatives doing well."

No, no it's not.

look up 1994

Republicans act conservative when they have to. They have to now, or keep getting hammered by Obama.

hth


Look up 1994? Why don't you take your own advice.

Seriously: what did 1994 accomplish? Did it reduce the size of government? Did it even slow down the rapid rate of increase in government spending? Did it seal the borders? Did it send the illegals home? Did it stop outsourcing or H1B? Did it stop affirmative action? Did it do anything apart from setting us up for the disaster of the Bush-Cheney years?

And you expect 2010 to be different? Why?

eh said...

What hope could there possibly be for a state that elects Kamala Harris as Attorney General? Its top law enforcement person, more or less.

California election results.

Some info about Harris:

The assault on Amanda Kiefer at dusk in San Francisco's posh Pacific Heights was extraordinary enough for its cruelty...A stranger, later identified as Alexander Izaguirre, snatched her purse and hopped into an SUV, police say. The driver sped forward to run Kiefer down...Only after the July 2008 attack did Kiefer learn of the crime's political ramifications. Izaguirre, police told her, was an illegal immigrant who had pleaded guilty four months earlier to a drug felony for selling cocaine in the seedy Tenderloin area...He had avoided prison when he was picked for a jobs program run by San Francisco Dist. Atty. Kamala Harris, now a candidate for California's top law enforcement post. In effect, Harris' office had been allowing Izaguirre and other illegal immigrants to stay out of prison by training them for jobs they cannot legally hold.

Tip, iceberg.

Oh, for those wondering, the answer to the question is: None whatsoever.

DCThrowback said...

Perhaps all politics is really local, and in those 60+ seats in the house that the GOP took, those independents that were supremely frustrated got their frustrations vented on the closest targets (this is opposite of the normal 98-99% re-election rate for incumbents, so this IS a big deal, no matter what most of the folks on here say). It is a cause to be happy, as folks around the country said enough is enough.

Obviously its frustrating that incumbents like Reid, Frank and others will survive. But one must think of the long term effects of right wing populism - will it grow stronger as a result of these setbacks? Or will it recoil, to lick its wounds and meekly roll into the GOP? Will it recruit more credible candidates in future elections? I think this is the greatest story of the 2010 election - liberal overreach and the disagreement from the right on how to react. You win large majorities by getting on the same page with all of your constituencies. The GOP, instead of putting out anonymous hit pieces on the likes of Sarah Palin, should focus on addressing the concerns of the hoi polloi to consolidate power for a momentum continuing election in 2012. But will they have enough sense to do so?

Finally, apparently a lot of polling continues to lag behind in accounting for the Democratic (ahem) Get Out The Vote efforts. No one cheats better than the Democrats, which is why polls showing ties in Nevada end up D+5, PA R+4 end up PA R+1, etc. I don't trust liberals and their hunger for power. It must be harder to cheat in House races because of the sheer number of them. But in Senate races? A clear focus on the major cities in each state (Las Vegas, Seattle, Philly/Pitt) can swing a race pretty handily. Of course, I say "cheating" when it might just be the sheer number of liberals/minorities living in those places.

Mr. Anon said...

"Anonymous said...

Steve,

Boxer? Brown? I'm a Californian so , in my gut, I knew what would happen, but I am still trying to digest why anyone would have held the maid thing against Whitman."

Whitman had campaign adds in Spanish and participated in a Spanish language debate sponsored by Univision.

"The Boxer ad about CEO Fiorina outsourcing jobs during the tech troubles was a highly effective ad, one which I feel Fiorina and her ad people didn't attempt to address. She could have gone on the offensive and explained, "My job as a CEO was to save the company during hard times;"

Or alternatively, she could have NOT outsourced HP jobs.

Sure, Boxer is an idiot, and Brown is a fossil, and a lot of California voters are clueless. But that doesn't change the fact that the Republican candidates weren't worth a bucket of warm spit.

The Anti-Gnostic said...

I'm afraid Whiskey is right about the nice White Ladies. They have been causing problems for a while."

Symptom not cause.


Agreed. And we actually saw how mama bears react when hubby gets the boot at work or has to shut his business down: they join the Tea Party and start circling the wagons.

And - Rand Paul won in Kentucky. Private clinician to US Senator in one leap. You don't see that very often.

Anonymous said...

Hey, how would you like to live in MA? ALL Dhimmicrat constitutional officials from the governor on down, all Dhimmi congressmen including the excrable sore winner Frank, and only one out of nine senators, RINO Brown, is of the GOP. My girlfriend is looking at employment adds for nurses in Texas!

Question for the Steve-o-spehere: what happens when at some point in the next 2 years Obama comes to the people of the US with an urgent plea from Gov. Moonbeam for a MASSIVE cash infusion to save his benighted state of California?

Brutus

Truth said...

"By the way, that jack@ss Dan Maes killed the race for Tancredo. If he had gotten out, Tancredo would've won. "

LMAO!

Yeah, why didn't the Republican nominee step aside for that 3rd party candidate anyway?

elvisd said...

Don’t insult Hispanics. Show that you actually like them without abandoning the conservative position, which can be supported in a variety of ways without being insensitive. Illegal immigration is an environmental issue, a wage issue, a jobs issue, a law-and-order issue, and a national security issue.

Amen.

Fellow Traveler in Berkeley said...

Gov Moonbeam back in, Boxer still in, Kamala "I never met an illegal immigrant or murderer I didn't like" Harris wins as Atty Gen, the budget can now be passed with a simple majority (overthrowing the previous 'word of the people' proposition that made a 2/3rd majority the requirement)...on and on.

Maybe conservative folks in other states are feeling a little happier today, but here in CA, not so much.

Off to the Giants World Series victory parade in SF to cheer me up.

nsam said...

It calls into question Palin's influence if she can't even get Joe Miller elected in her home state. She likely has negatively impacted two or three senate seats for the Republicans. She is a non-entity in general elections and is simply accumulating undeserved media exposure which will be monetized in all manner possible.

SF said...

The California governor and Senate elections were not close at all. Does this mean the demographics of Ca. make it permanently left? According to this: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20021592-503544.html
the electorate is 22% latino. It's not clear whether that is voter participation or registration. I still think Pete Wilson would have won, but he is termed out and 77.

James Kabala said...

Possibly the most interesting event of all from an HBD perspective was that two conservative black Republicans were elected - one from the Charleston, South Carolina, district - and a third came very close. Obama seems to have brought black conservatives out of the wooodwork. (As far as I can tell from a distance, all three men are competent and qualified rather than "No, really, we're diverse too!" tokens or Alan Keyes types.) Tom Brokaw was the only person I saw to make any note of this.

Captain Jack Aubrey said...

In Colorado it seems possible that Republican Ken Buck's senate campaign may have been hurt by the GOP meltdown in the gubernatorial race. The idiot Maes may not only have cost the GOP a governor's seat, but a senate seat as well.

Rossi's loss in Washington (and Fiorina's and Whitman's loss in CA) prevents Chamber of Commerce brand Republicans from claiming that strong pro-borders policies are what hurt the GOP.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure Boehner & Co. are all squatting on iSteve just itching to hear what I have to say. If I have one suggestion for the GOP it'd be: hold off on the tax cuts.

Tax cuts are the first thing Democrats will compromise on because 1) rich Democrats want 'em, too; 2) it spends Republican political capital without buying conservatives anything permanent, like a smaller government; and 3) it takes the ir out of demands for smaller gov't, because recipients of government largesse (farmers, seniors) aren't going to answer calls for sacrifice even as the rich get more handouts.

Tax cuts? Don't throw the Democrats in that Brier Patch!

Anonymous said...

CNN Exit Polls are up:
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2010/results/polls/#USH00p1

Interesting that under the "vote by religion" category, after giving the voting percentages for white Catholics, white Protestants, whites with no religion, they chose to list Jews as N/A. Now why would they want to conceal that? (Going by every election since Nixon I'll go out on a limb and guess that the Dems got about 78% of their votes again.)

Anonymous said...

Grist for the Sailer mill:

1) According to CNN exit polling, the GOP's share of the white vote has gone from 51% in 2006 to 53% in 2008 to 60% in 2010. Sailer strategy says that anything above 57% of white vote means victory for GOP (at least until the demographics change further).

2) The GOP got its usual third of the Hispanic vote. Didn't seem to affect their success.

3) The Dems got 37% of the white vote. This is electoral death in a still predominantly white nation.

4) As Steve often says, the Hispanic vote goes up and down with the white vote. The ratio of GOP Hispanic share to GOP white share is .588 for 2006, .54 for 2008, and .57 for 2010. Pretty consistent.

Anonymous said...

"Jerry Brown (listening to his victory speech now) sounds like a complete nutjob. Some sor of mental/ethical breakdown before his 4 years are up. Maybe another recall in the offing..."

He's always been this way (a "complete nut job") and I think two things are at work.

1) One is the conflict between his gay self and his wish-he-were straight alter ego. When he was 14 or 15, while on a weekend Catholic retreat for boys, my friend (whose name is also Jerry) was Brown's roommate. The lights went out and Mr. Brown put the moves on.

After shoving him against the wall and landing several on his jaw, my friend was given a new roommate for the remainder of the weekend and advised not to make a big deal of the incident. The brothers/priests in charge did nothing to Brown, of course. My friend and his parents never again had anything to do with the church.

I believe his sexuality has caused him a lot of conflict. Raised a strict Catholic, much of Church doctrine, I think, has actually "stuck, accounting for a great deal of his inner turmoil. Further, he has always struggled to live up to his old man's political successes as a leader who re-shaped California (which he hasn't) as well as his old man's presence (fat chance as Pat Brown had extraordinary political and social skills and a masculine presence, all of which Jer lacks completely). In short, Jerry Brown has a Daddy complex supreme.

His life has been a series of highly public political pursuits followed by long withdrawals from the public eye; he spent time exploring his spirtuality in Tibet, as I recall. There have been long periods of his life in which he retreats from society and practices a monkish existence.

2) Then there is what I think is an actual mental illness at work. If you have experience with recognize the "pressure of speech" characteristic of bi-polar disorder, in which the person flits from topic to topic, often gasping for air in an effort to help the mouth and lungs keep up with thoughts. I believe that is what you witnessed in Brown's speech last night. It happens a lot with him. The press seems not to think it anything other than eccentric, but what do you expect from a bunch of undereducated former journalism students? Sometimes he's quite cogent; other times, he is off-the-wall incoherent. Leave it to the press, who only want a good story, to ignore that there is something seriously wrong with him.

I think he's probably suffers from bi-polar II. "Hypomanic," I believe, is the clinical term. Over the course of his life, there have been times his speeches show the delusions of grandeur that he experiences.

Yep. Jer's a mess and now he's our mess. Why shouldn't a mess of a state have a mess of a governor? We already have a mess of a legislature?

I often spend time on the computer looking for a nice town in some other state to move to, a state with good weather. I was born here, worked 35 years as a teacher, am retired, and don't wish to give CA more of my wealth to be redistributed. Looks as if I need to get serious now, for sure.

It's that weather thing that is so tough, you know?

Anonymous said...

Well, Republicans lose the Colorado Senate seat. So what can I say? At least give us a Patti Murray defeat.

Yes, Dan Maes is a flaming idiot. Tancredo's performance was impressive, especially with the lack of funding and support from the establishment, but no one could overcome the idiocy of the Maese/establishment combine.

At least we have Congressman Barletta.

Oh, by the way, John McCain is back for 6 more years.

Anybody have any opinions on Murkowski v.s. Miller in Alaska?

Mel Torme said...

"Hey, how would you like to live in MA? ALL Dhimmicrat constitutional officials from the governor on down, all Dhimmi congressmen including the excrable sore winner Frank, and only one out of nine senators, RINO Brown, is of the GOP. ...

Hey you've got nine senators up there in Mass? How come we only get 2 in my state? This is B_llshit!

;-)

Severn said...

I've got to write a VDARE piece on Wednesday, so please help me sound like I know what I'm talking about.


You can have a look at the exit poll data for the House races and see how the Republicans won all those seats.

Whites made up 78% of voters, and 60% of them voted Republican.

African-Americans made up 10% of voters: 90% of them voted Democratic.

Hispanics made up only 8% of voters, and 64% of them voted Democratic.

You'd think that the people running the GOP would notice the danger here, but, incredibly, you'd be wrong.

Anonymous said...

GOP did well with women (presumably white women) this time around.

Now, even *if* the economy does improve a bit (not holding my breath), any added revenues coming into the state and federal treasuries go right back out to people who don't work in an Obama world or in a CA/NY world.

The GOP has to keep pointing out to women that their family's wealth is being given to the non- workers. I think it will be quite effective to keep using Barry's word, "redistribution," against him. I think white women became very aware of just what that means to Obama.

The GOP needs to continue to make it a dirty word. All the soccer moms around me now know exactly what it means.

Lewis said...

I know Steve has suggested labeling the Democratic Party as the party of Black Americans. But why not label it as the party of California? After yesterday's elections, it's clear the state is completely alienated from the rest of the country. And, as has been discussed here before, Whites who do not live amongst Blacks fail to perceive them as the other. However, Whites, whether they live in Oregon, Alabama, or Pennsylvania, can equally rally around the idea of California as morally and fiscally irresponsible. What does the Republican Party have to lose? They're not going to carry the state in a presidential election within the foreseeable future anyways.

Chris said...

You gotta see Tim Wise's (Weisman's?) take on the election. He's on the verge of implosion.

An Open Letter to the White Right, On the Occasion of Your Recent, Successful Temper Tantrum

Anonymous said...

What do you consider right wing then, Mussolini style fascism/corporatism and elite kleptocracy?



I don't think any serious person regards Mussolini and fascism as being "right wing".

B Lode said...

Awright, you blokes who think the Republicans (2007-2010) are no better than the Democrats on immigration, come on over and explain yourselves.

(Numbers provided by Numbers USA.)

Anonymous said...

Interesting that under the "vote by religion" category, after giving the voting percentages for white Catholics, white Protestants, whites with no religion, they chose to list Jews as N/A. Now why would they want to conceal that?

I do find that interesting. The CNN exit polls show almost every conceivable combination of factors.

At the bottom of page 1, they show a very interesting comparison between White Evangelical/Born-Again and Not. According to this breakdown, White evangelicals made up 25% of the electorate and voted republican 78%. Meanwhile 75% of the electorate WERE NOT white evangelicals. Of this larger group, 55% voted democrat.

If I were from Mars and just looked at that presentation, I would conclude that the only reason republicans won was because of White evangelicals. Everyone else, 75%, voted slightly in favor of the democrats. It was the highly skewed white evangelicals who gave the republicans victory.

Why did they break it down like this? To me it just sets up evangelicals to be the evil folks who took victory away from the democrats. Although the stats are probably true, I don't believe they reflect why the republicans won.

By isolating the white evangelicals, they set them up for future ridicule, or make it seem like the whole country except white evangelicals is with the democrats.

Maybe this is why they chose to list Jews as N/A.

Anonymous said...

You gotta see Tim Wise's (Weisman's?) take on the election.

Wow.

That was some seriously scary shiznat.

Kinda gives you some insight into the mindset which visited the Holodomor upon the Kulaks & the Ukraine.

Yikes.

Anonymous said...

What it means: the country is ready for intelligent and normal men with a view that govt should be much smaller (Paul, Rubio). The country is not ready for dumb women who have that same view (Angle, O'D). R's heed that message and don't bring Palin to the table in 2012.

Anonymous said...

Then there is what I think is an actual mental illness at work. If you have experience with recognize the "pressure of speech" characteristic of bi-polar disorder, in which the person flits from topic to topic, often gasping for air in an effort to help the mouth and lungs keep up with thoughts. I believe that is what you witnessed in Brown's speech last night... I think he's probably suffers from bi-polar II. "Hypomanic," I believe, is the clinical term...

A little off-topic, but God in Heaven, it is not fun to live in the same household as "Mental Illness".

If you grew up in a sane house, and then one day the circumstances of your life somehow forced you to spend some time in an insane house, then, well, let's just say that it takes a toll on you.

Not fun.

Not fun at all.

And once you have experienced "Mental Illness" first hand, you suddenly recognize it in people all around you.

The tell-tale sign is the dark rings under the eyes, from the lack of sleep.

Chris said...

Awright, you blokes who think the Republicans (2007-2010) are no better than the Democrats on immigration, come on over and explain yourselves.

I think that's what set off Tim Wise. He sees his dream deferred in those numbers. Them and those "Imagine 2050" douchebags who can't wait another minute for elimination of the white majority.

Wandrin said...

"You gotta see Tim Wise's (Weisman's?) take on the election. He's on the verge of implosion."

Anti-racist is a codeword for genocidal racist hatred of white people.

ben tillman said...

"The centers of both political parties are on the Left side of the political scale."

You cannot be serious?

What do you consider right wing then, Mussolini style fascism/corporatism and elite kleptocracy?

Because both parties are working diligently working towards that goal.

Enjoy the x-ray scan OR your nuts/vaginal area being patter down lovingly by a security "expert" when you fly, toodles.


Am I the only one who can't make any sense out of this comment?

ben tillman said...

Lets face it, illegal immigration is a killer issue, because Nice White Ladies vote their class interests, in favor of it.

Let's face it -- you're out of your mind. Men are much more likely to employ illegal alien labor -- to do their yards. Of course, that doesn't stop most of them from opposing illegal immigration anyway.

ben tillman said...

Wow -- that Tim Wise post was really disturbing.

Anonymous said...

Re: Tim Wise. The piece does indeed makes you wonder if the same mindset was in place during Bolsheviks' destruction of Russian empire. At least he made his hatred of the USA very explicit:

Do you hear it?

The sound of your empire dying? Your nation, as you knew it, ending, permanently?

Because I do, and the sound of its demise is beautiful.

Anonymous said...

"But why not label it as the party of California?"

I love this--it could really work.

Anonymous said...

"What it means: the country is ready for intelligent and normal men with a view that govt should be much smaller (Paul, Rubio). The country is not ready for dumb women who have that same view (Angle, O'D). R's heed that message and don't bring Palin to the table in 2012."


Yep. I am looking forward to Rubio getting air time and hope Ryan makes the rounds more frequently too.

Severn said...

You gotta see Tim Wise's (Weisman's?) take on the election. He's on the verge of implosion.


Who's Tim Wise?

Severn said...

Uh huh. One of the usual suspects.


Wise was born in Nashville, Tennessee to Michael Julius Wise and LuCinda Anne (née McLean) Wise. Wise's father is Jewish, and his mother is Scottish. Tim attended public schools in Nashville, graduating from Hillsboro High School in 1986. In high school he was student body vice-president and a member of one of the top high school debate teams in the United States. Wise attended college at Tulane University in New Orleans and received his B.A. there, with a major in Political Science and a minor in Latin American Studies. While a student he was a leader in the campus anti-apartheid movement, which sought to force Tulane to divest from companies still doing business with the government of South Africa. He first came to national attention as an anti-apartheid leader in 1988, when South African Archbishop Desmond Tutu announced he would turn down an offer of an honorary degree from Tulane, after Wise's group informed him of the school's ongoing investments there.

Just another Jew with an all-consuming hatred for people of European descent. Nothing to see here, move along ...

keypusher said...

Latinos saved Reid and Bennet -- that is likely to be a theme of this election.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

Captain Jack Aubrey said...

Yeah, take home message from this election: the GOP can't win with Palin. Palin's useful as a Limbaugh/Hannity/Beck type, exciting the voters, but she's too far out there, and turns off the SWPL whites in places like Colorado, Washington, Oregon and California.

I have this gut feeling that the GOP underperformed, especially in the Senate. Palin didn't help. So maybe a Murkowski victory isn't so bad - as long as the establishment got the message that the base doesn't trust them.

Steve Sailer said...

"Who's Tim Wise?"

He's America's leading Uncle Tim.

Anonymous said...

Just another Jew with an all-consuming hatred for people of European descent.

Half-Jew. He's Jewish like Obama is black. Weird how people can be hateful toward one half of their heritage.

Kylie said...

Anonymous said..."At least he[Tim Wiseman] made his hatred of the USA very explicit."

No. He made his hatred of white America very explicit.

I wonder who he thinks is going to keep the whole show going once the whites he hates have died off? Apparently, he hasn't taken a gander at a Google Street View of Detroit lately.

Anonymous said...

. . .and turns off the SWPL whites in places like Colorado, Washington, Oregon and California.

So who could the Republicans nominate who could possibly "turn on" SWPL whites more than Obama?

Anonymous said...

Mel, it's because we're "smahhter" than the rest of you! ;-)

0 out of 9 reps and 0 out of 9 sens is what is what I meant to type. The disgust with my home state got the best of me!

Brutus

Anonymous said...

Has California ever been more out of step with the rest of the country? A state that voted Republican every presidential election except '64 between 1952 and 1988, is now so far left that it's outgoing Republican governor was bashing oil companies and the defeat of anti-nanny state initiative on "global warming" as his last major announcement. Oh and they reelected Boxer and brought Governor Moonbeam back. I guess the bad economy and good economy are good for Democrats in California. In most of the rest of the country the Democrats have been running scared. How much longer will the technology companies be able to stay in California economically even with the presence of Stanford, Caltech, and Berkeley in state?

Svigor said...

Tim Wise ducks ethnopatriots as a way of life. How else does a guy make a living as a professional "anti-racist" on the internet and manage to never debate any of the many "racists" on the internet? I've only ever heard of him crossing swords with Taylor the one time, and that was in radio format. Wise only managed to give the appearance of holding his own with Taylor by dint of his high verbal IQ and total lack of scruples.

If he took on an even moderately well-informed ethnopatriot on the 'net he'd be schooled, and he knows it. He can survive a few minutes in real time with the gift of gab, by taking advantage of people's prejudices, ignorance, and naivete, but in a text format with links and time to compose and such, he's toast, and he knows it. So he hides.

And he's the poster boy for "anti-racism." Tsk, tsk.

SF said...

Pete Wilson's 1994 ad was much more balanced than Sharon Angle's. If I remember right, he showed a picture of Mexican-Americans proudly taking the oath of citizenship, then contrasted that with a shot of illegals running from the border crossing.
I think a candidate whose high school Spanish is good enough to read the Sailer speech about responsible citizenship, combining that with admiration of the Hispanic work ethic, would do well.
Another election lesson is to value politicians who have demonstrated some appeal to voters.
Hickenlooper's goofy ad with him in the shower was probably refreshing for a lot of voters.

Svigor said...

Severn and Steve are both right. Wise is half angry Ashkenazi, half white uncle Tom. It's a toxic mixture, the worst of both worlds.

His white side makes him juuust objective enough to know he has to acknowledge Apartheid Israel, but his Jewish side makes him just particularist enough to do so only quietly, out of the side of his mouth, and only reluctantly and as seldom as possible.

If Wise was Superman, he'd only fight crime in Martha's Vinyard. If he was Mother Theresa, he'd only bring mercy to Beverly Hills. If he was John Snow, he'd run from cholera. But he's Tim Wise, valiant champion of the downtrodden, enemy of the oppressor, and speaker of truth to power, so he runs from Apartheid Israel as fast as his little legs will carry him. Middle America, a group so racist it can't say no to Mexicanization for fear of being seen as unfriendly, is a much more daunting foe.

Svigor said...

I wonder who he thinks is going to keep the whole show going once the whites he hates have died off? Apparently, he hasn't taken a gander at a Google Street View of Detroit lately.

That's the funny part. As white America, the glue holding the whole Rube Goldberg contraption together, rides off into the sunset, the "coalition of the non-white" Wise imagines will fall-to on one another.

Who does Wise think will keep them from one another's throats? Who knows? Wise debates no one, so never has to answer any inconvenient questions.

Svigor said...

While a student he was a leader in the campus anti-apartheid movement, which sought to force Tulane to divest from companies still doing business with the government of South Africa. He first came to national attention as an anti-apartheid leader in 1988, when South African Archbishop Desmond Tutu announced he would turn down an offer of an honorary degree from Tulane, after Wise's group informed him of the school's ongoing investments there.

Heh, couldn't have written it better myself. SA Apartheid? Rage against the machine, man! Israeli apartheid? *Crickets chirping*

He knows where his bread's buttered.

Svigor said...

Wise really is the perfect poster boy for "anti-racism." The purpose of "anti-racism" is to keep whitey in his place, not actually combat racism. If combating racism was the point, the fertile fields of Israeli society, Chinese immigration policy, Mexican immigration policy, Saudi society, Zimbabwe, South Africa, etc., would be far more attractive to them than middle America. Don't expect "Anti-Racists Without Borders" to crop up any time soon. So it's spectacularly inconvenient for these folks to even countenance the idea of even naming ethnopatriots (naming leads to G**gling, and G**gling leads to reading, and reading leads to the Dark Side), much less debating them.

tommy said...

This one goes out to Uncle Tim.

Anonymous said...

Classic Obama: deftly summarizing his opponent's arguments.

"I think it's clear that the voters sent a message, which is, they want us to focus on the economy and jobs and moving this country forward," the president said. "They're concerned about making sure that taxpayer money is not wasted, and they want to change the tone here in Washington, where the two parties are coming together and focusing on the people's business as opposed to scoring political points."

Great. So will he follow the wishes of the majority, now that he understands what they want? Not bloody likely. The majority is still white and needs to take its socialist medicine. It's gonna be more Cloward-Piven.

Anonymous said...

Look, whites are not going to die off. My fear is that government handouts will turn whites on the left side of the Bell curve into NAMS, where they will degrade the IQ advantages of the white population as a whole. More likely the low IQ whites will breed with the NAMs thereby removing them from the gene pool and cutting the deck, as it were, leaving a white population with nearly the same intelligence advantages as Jews, with a similar survivalist instinct.

Even when whites turn into a minority, there will be over 200 million. If they chose to be an identity group, they will be the most successful one, and might aggressively segregate from other groups.

Also, expect the government to become more inept at everything with demographic evolution, including tax collection. I think ultimately 50% of whites will figure out how to find opportunity -- Hispanics and blacks will be the Neanderthals living among them, easily out competed for resources once the redistributive powers of the government start to fail.

ben tillman said...

Half-Jew. He's Jewish like Obama is black. Weird how people can be hateful toward one half of their heritage.

Wrong. Both of Wise's parents were Jews, or he had three Jewish grandparents (including twio Jewish grandmothers), if you prefer. His mother apparently had a gentile father, but of course her Jewish mother qualified her as Jewish under Jewish law.

James Kabala said...

"Israeli apartheid? *Crickets chirping*

He knows where his bread's buttered."

Svigor, it took two seconds of Googling to learn that Wise (like most professional "anti-racists") is a longtime anti-Zionist Jew of the Chomsky/Finkelstein variety.

Svigor said...

Svigor, it took two seconds of Googling to learn that Wise (like most professional "anti-racists") is a longtime anti-Zionist Jew of the Chomsky/Finkelstein variety.

By that you mean precisely what I said, right? That he takes an "on paper" stance against Apartheid Israel, which in real world terms amounts to nothing?

This is nothing new, it's the default position of professional "anti-racists"; whisper soft-pedaled criticism of Israel for five seconds once a decade so you can go back to bashing middle America 24/7.

Anonymous said...

Maybe Tim Wise will recite the letter during his upcoming speaking engagements?

November 9th in Sewanee, TN:

http://news.sewanee.edu/events/2010/11/09/author-and-educator-tim-wise-to-speak-at-sewanee

and November 11th at Georgia tech in Atlanta:

http://gatechtraining.blogspot.com/2010/11/diversity-week-2010.html

B Lode said...

I've only ever heard of him crossing swords with Taylor the one time, and that was in radio format.

In terms of shifting my thinking on race, that debate packed more punch per minute than any other thing I've heard.

What is more interesting is reading Jason Malloy at Gene Expression calling them both kooks, extensively debunking Wise, and debunking Taylor on one point ... and then, at the bottom (read the whole thing!) retracting most of what he had said in a misguided attempt to correct Taylor.

Basically, Malloy can't stand either of them but admits that Taylor's facts are basically right, only his ethics are wrong, only Malloy can't quite assail Taylor's ethics because Malloy doesn't seem to know or care what Taylor's evil plans are.

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