June 2, 2010

Two Hobbits: Which one is the Kiwi?

Sad news: with MGM unable to come up with reliable enough financing to start production, Guillermo del Toro (Pan's Labyrinth) has dropped out of directing Tolkien's Hobbit under Peter Jackson's (Lord of the Rings) production. I'm sure I'm not the first to point out that both del Toro and Jackson are quite Hobbitty-looking themselves.

Here's a picture of the pair in happier times. Which one is the Kiwi and which one the Mexican?
 

24 comments:

Wido Incognitus said...

The blond one is Mexican. Also, would they have used the same actors as in Lord of the Rings (for the same characters)? Ian McKellen is getting old.

Anonymous said...

Pan's Labyrinth was one of the most abominable pieces of Marxist propaganda I have ever seen in my life.

Anonymous said...

the first lord of the rings movie was probably the most dull self-involved movie i've ever seen - only saw the first one, but I heard the other two were just as good (i.e., bad).

gymquiz said...

Latino's come in all shapes, sizes and colors. They are truly the cosmic race. "La raza cosmica", -- and they should all benefit from Affirmative Action and Diversity Set Asides equally.

Anonymous said...

I am Lugash.

Just as well. Benecio would have set The Hobbit in Civil War Spain.

I am Lugash.

Anonymous said...

Jackson is about the same shade as del Toro's colleague Alfonso Cuaron, who himself looks like a handsome Frenchman or Italian.

http://z.about.com/d/movies/1/0/6/U/N/childrenmencast9.jpg

Inarritu is another Mexican director who wouldn't look out of place in Rome or Marseilles.

http://www.celuloide.net/images/profiles/Alejandro%20Gonzalez%20Inarritu%202.jpg

The Cold Equations said...

The one on the right is the Mexican descendant of conquistadores who makes movies in which the heavies are always evil right-wingers, but in real life moved to el norte because there was too much crime in Mexico directed at people like him - and not by evil right wingers.

Rain And said...

Looks exactly like an Anglo and a Spanish guy.

Anonymous said...

Sailer quoted in NRO today

http://www.nationalreview.com/agenda/56220/intermarriage-decline/avik-roy

David said...

NRO quoted on isteve today:

> Anonymous said...

Sailer quoted in NRO today

http://www.nationalreview.com/agenda/56220/intermarriage-decline/avik-roy

6/02/2010 <

Anonymous said...

Its a shame The Hobbit wasnt made in a row with the LOTR triolgy. Same actors, same production crew, sets, costumes etc. Havent these people heard of economies of scale?

The Critic said...

"Pan's Labyrinth was one of the most abominable pieces of Marxist propaganda I have ever seen in my life."

Quite the opposite. The upshot of the story is that the only effective ways to escape fascism are by death or into a fantasy world.

Cinco Jotas said...

Who knew that universal nerd culture had a genetic component?

TGGP said...

Huh, because of Pan's Labyrinth I thought del Toro was a Spaniard (like Benicio).

BamaGirl said...

Yeah, this picture illustrates the phenotypes of most of the "latinos" reaping scholarships benefits are at major universities. The majority of spaniards are indistinguishable from a dark-haired and slightly tanned Irishman or Englishman (and yes, there are plenty.).

Steve Sailer said...

I think Benicio del Toro is Puerto Rican -- his father is a lawyer, and Benicio went to a boarding prep school in the East somewhere.

ExtraMedium said...

I have a question about whites vs. non-Hispanic whites. Why do you (non-Hispanic) white Race Realists stress this difference so much? Aren't Hispanic whites just whites from Latin America? Wouldn't it make sense to acknowledge their whiteness to help you guys win The Great Racial Demographic War because of their higher birthrate? These questions popped into my head while watching an Henry Louis Gates Jr. produced PBS special about the family histories' of celebrities. HLG is majority Irish (I think he said ~60%), but because of the one-drop rule he counts as black and therefore fights for blacks.

Anonymous said...

"Its a shame The Hobbit wasnt made in a row with the LOTR triolgy. Same actors, same production crew, sets, costumes etc. Havent these people heard of economies of scale?"

They would have done so if they could have, but the distribution rights to the Hobbit were caught up in a huge legal mess which it took a long time to clear up, thus it was not possible to make the Hobbit at the same time at LOTR.

Anonymous said...

"the first lord of the rings movie was probably the most dull self-involved movie i've ever seen - only saw the first one, but I heard the other two were just as good (i.e., bad)."

You have no taste and no one cares what you think about movies.

S Khan said...

"I have a question about whites vs. non-Hispanic whites. Why do you (non-Hispanic) white Race Realists stress this difference so much? Aren't Hispanic whites just whites from Latin America?"

I am non-White but the think the reason for this is that Whites feel and think that the Hispanic Whites have some non-White hidden in their family tree somewhere and those non-Whites traits (physical, behavioural etc... ) may re-appear any generation. Latin America has a long history of interracial mixing making the Whites there suspect. Most Whites in the U.S.A for example would rather consider the Whites of South Africa and Namibia as fellow Whites unlike the Hispanic Whites because the racially mixed mulatoes were never included into the White community. In other words, non-White genes were prevented from entering the White gene pool.

Besides many (but not all) Hispanic Whites tend to consider themselves part of the Hispanic world which they share with browns, reds and blacks rather than the Anglo White world.

Garland said...

Even putting aside PL's atrocious Stalinist propaganda, I think it is one of the most annoyingly overrated (98) movies of all time, and my pet theory is that it is because movie critics are huge nerds, they're just better at hiding it (and more eager to hide it) than nerds in less prestigious fields. So they saw this neat-o fantasy story with cool monsters and everything they love but they also got permission (from the Franco setting) to declare the movie very important and pertinent to real life and history and stuff.

Also I dont think any of them had any idea what was going on at the end but didn't want to admit it.

Anonymous said...

Quite the opposite. The upshot of the story is that the only effective ways to escape fascism are by death or into a fantasy world.

You don't seem to understand who the communists were.

You might start by reading about the 6,832 priests and nuns they butchered during their brief reign of terror [in about three months, during the summer of 1936].

[BTW, how does someone this naive get posted at iSteve? Seriously - is this Axelrodian astroturfing?!? C'mon - this is supposed to be a paleo site - good grief. And I'm the anti-Papist around here!!!]

BamaGirl said...

"I have a question about whites vs. non-Hispanic whites. Why do you (non-Hispanic) white Race Realists stress this difference so much? Aren't Hispanic whites just whites from Latin America? Wouldn't it make sense to acknowledge their whiteness to help you guys win The Great Racial Demographic War because of their higher birthrate? These questions popped into my head while watching an Henry Louis Gates Jr. produced PBS special about the family histories' of celebrities. HLG is majority Irish (I think he said ~60%), but because of the one-drop rule he counts as black and therefore fights for blacks"

Its probably because lately the Latin American whites act like they are members of a different race. There wasn't always this perception either; in "I Love Lucy" no one claimed that the two lead characters were in an interracial relationship because Desi Arnez was from Cuba, because its obvious he is a Spanish-descended and therefore white. An actual interracial relationship would have been too controversial to air on television in the 40s/50s.

After all, even if some Latin-are 100 percent white in most cases they are eligible for affirmative action, special scholarships, etc. Even spaniards (from Europe) had a special box designated for themselves on the census this year. Its more beneficial for them to assert themselves as non-white I suppose. I don't understand it though.

Justin said...

"I have a question about whites vs. non-Hispanic whites. Why do you (non-Hispanic) white Race Realists stress this difference so much?"

Ever heard of culture, or religion, or ethnic history?

Why do Englishmen "stress their difference" from Spaniards?

I'm thinking, you know, like, because they are... different.

It's not a matter of "stressing" anything, its just a recognition of reality.

Its called White ethnic groups. Not all Whites are the same.

Duh.